Here is something I just don't get at all. In NLHE, whenever someone has a pocket pair, they will always fold preflop to a raise if it is going to be a heads-up pot, and they will always say "I just needed one more caller". Absolutely EVERYONE will call in a multiway pot but not heads-up, regardless of stack sizes, position, etc. It happens so much that I have begun to think it must somehow be right. But it's not, right? Having one extra caller matters so little, right? Am I going crazy?!

I'm holding KT in Nl game.

3 callers to the flop:

TT4 rainbow.

Guy who calls alot is to my left, I pot it for 55 or so.

Turn A I bet 75

River 5

I pot it again.

Board is TT4A5

The guy goes into the tank for 2 3 minutes and calls with J9

" I thought you were bluffing "

Actually one of the funniest things i hear all the time at my local game is the opposite. cracks me up every time. Example Hand:

I have KK on the button, guy limps early position, folds to me after that, i make it 12, sb calls, bb calls, utg folds. Hand plays out and my KK wins a 60$ pot, as soon as its over UTG goes "damnit all i folded 33, woulda made a set" and when asked why he didnt call, there are at least 10 guys at the local card room who consistantly say

"Well if it was just you i wouldve, but i dont wanna play against 4 ppl with pocket 3s"

It's because when you play a small to mid-size pocket pair in NLHE, you're hoping to flop a set. You're not really going about it hopefully to call someone down to the end, and hope your pocket fours are good. You want it to be multi-way so the pot will be larger, and you'll get action if your hit your set.

Home Game- A guy with the pro-poker player attitude and regular casino gambler says "I never lose with pocket 99, Never ill call any all in on any street", and he does, that same guy one time has pocket 1010 and flops top set on a 1072 rainbow board, another guy tries to bluff him with J7 for a huge pot and he flips over his cards and starts acting like an idiot saying i think im gonna fold, he could have xx (no preflop raise and the shover was raising alot) and finally calls after some time and the other guy catches runner runner Jacks full and beats him, he says: i knew i should fold.Another guy at a slot machine says to a friend of mine seating at his side, "today we are leaving on a jet or on foot" and my friend go on and loses all his money and leaves and the other guy apparently goes broke also, and at the exit he saw the other guy getting in a limo guarded by bodyguards and with some girls, and my friend had nothing,
I used to play at a home game that at the middle of the hands when some "big decision came" they started asking what do you have (whoever wasnt involved to the ones involved in the hand) and started passin the hole cards a ll over.

Local tourny, my friend has Ax on a 2 2 2 board. Someone bets, a call, my friend calls. Turn is a 2. All the money goes in and my friend calls obv, expecting a chop. One guy tables 9 9 and the other Q Q. My friend amusedly goes to collect the pot, before the table erupts. It's a split pot, they all claim, everyone has quads. My friend calls the host over, and explains he has the Ace kicker. Host thinks and thinks whilst everyone is arguing and claiming Q Q is the best hand, others say all three chop, not one seems to understand the A kicker. Eventually the host says all three split it. Reason? 'It's not fair that A high should win.' Not as funny as some of the stories so far but tilting nonetheless!

"I have to call I am getting value" - this all the time or "I cant fold for $10 more I have to call"

I was playing $1/2 NLHE in MP in a 3 way pot were I am second to act after EP and turn the nut straight and go all in, the guy to my left thinks for ages and turns to EP seat and says

"why do you have to be in the hand I know I got this guy beat"

he then turns to me and says

"Your lucky he has to act after me"

He folds, EP folds.

Guy to my left says "I wasnt worried about you (Hero), dam it I should of called"
Hero says "what did you have"
Guy to my left says "Bottom pair 5 kicker"

I see a guy 4 bet fold pre to an all in getting a huge price. Since I'm leaving I say to him "How can you fold? You were getting like 5-1 to call" He says "What do you mean 5-1, there was only two of us in the pot"

I was in a home game last week and one of the players proudly announced that he folded AA preflop in a tournament because 3 other players were all in before the flop.

When I asked him why he did this he said " I dont have the time to explain it right now, but it was the correct play".

My three favorites (among many).

1. Guy wins a massive pot with 86o. Action PF was straddle, I 3! AKs, LAG reraises, this guy CC 4. Flop is something like K82 and the turn is a 6. After the hand, he comments that he only plays "middle cards" when it is raised and reraised PF. That way, it is clear that everyone else has big cards and his hand will be good if he hits. This was 8/16 FWIW.

2. Heated argument erupts from a guy who claims Js4s is better than KsQs on a three spade, J high board. Come to find out that he had learned poker from his nephew, who had told him that a "flush pair" is better than a regular flush. This was also 8/16.

3. Old timer #1 sucks out on old timer #2 by making trip 2s with 23o. Old timer #2 berates him. OT #1 contends that it is more common for 2s and 3s to come on the river, which is why he stayed. OT #2 of course goes nuts. I actually see some grain of logic in this and attempt to intervene. Not all hands go to SD and those that do are more likely to have big cards in hands. He dismisses this and references something about the "luck" of 2s and 3s. I shut up.

-HF

Easy solution. Ask the QQ which 5 cards he would like to play.

Please no more derailing the thread with this conversation. It is being moved to a "Pot Odds" thread in another forum.

Any more posts on the subject will be removed.

LOL.

There is a situation where this applies, but I've never heard of it happening. Let's say you are down to 4 players, you have 2BB and the other 3 have, let's say, 205BBs. You are the BB, and get AA. All 3 players move all in. You should fold. Your chances of winning a 4-person all-in are not worth an almost guaranteed shot at 2nd place.

But that's just a silly situation.

Most commonly heard around my charity room: Multiple limps, SB or BB raises, folds around to late position who sighs and states "Just you and me? I fold." And reminds everyone that if there were more people in the pot, it would have been worth playing.

One hand in particular: $1/2 NL. Young villain and competent hero in pot. Board reads A A 6. Pretty obviously by flop action that both have an Ace. Turn is blank coupled by large bet from hero and call. River is a 6. Table relaxes as we all fully expect a chop. Hero fires medium sized bet at pot, obviously expected a call/chop. Villain tanks. Eyebrows are raised. Finally, villain mucks. Hero looks surprised and rakes in pot. I comment to villain that I thought for sure he had an Ace, and others around me agree. Villain looks at me and states "I did, I just thought he had a better kicker than me."

When kindly informed that full houses do not require a kicker, villain looks confused.

I immediately get up from the table and add $100 to my stack.

wish every player i went up against was this bad. once this happened with me but it the board read A.A.10.10.2. i bet, other guy raises, im all-in he calls expecting a chop, i turn over pocket tens and pick up a very big pot. nice