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Old 03-02-2009, 08:39 PM   #106
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

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My friends were at a different 1/2NL table from me. One of them is chatting with the guy next to her and gets into the topic of online poker. He starts to complain about online poker. Not that it is rigged but that it is.. "Too Random".

His reasoning was that they continuously shuffle the deck (via the random generator) so that changes what should come down... somehow to his determent I guess.
I have heard the same complaint except in relation to incorrectly dealing someone in / out, burning an extra card for whatever reason or pretty much anything that might alter the "way it was going to come out". I guess feeling that the game is pre-determined helps some of the older degens think that the reason they lose is not because their play sucks but because the cards just come out wrong for them
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:00 PM   #107
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

Statements like "I thought that since there were two queens on the flop that meant my opponent was less likely to have a queen, so my pocket 10s were good." What appears on the flop has absolutely no relation to what your opponent was dealt before the flop, so unless there are four queens on board, your opponent is just as likely to have a queen in his hand as if there were none on the flop.
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:04 PM   #108
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

Lady has the nuts on the river and just calls opponents bet.

I ask her why she didn't raise, and she replies that there was no point because she might be beat.
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:07 PM   #109
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

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Statements like "I thought that since there were two queens on the flop that meant my opponent was less likely to have a queen, so my pocket 10s were good." What appears on the flop has absolutely no relation to what your opponent was dealt before the flop, so unless there are four queens on board, your opponent is just as likely to have a queen in his hand as if there were none on the flop.
Much of hand reading is understand combos. "There are XXX combos that beat me and YYY combos I beat, so I should..."

When a second Queen hits the board it reduces the number of combos of Qx that your opponent can have. It does not reduce the number of non Q hands they can have. From your point of view they are now less likely to hold a Q.
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:37 PM   #110
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Heads up, Board reads Qh6h5x and some young kid checks its on all streets and tables AQ, someone jokingly says "not gonna put a bet out there?" and he says "nah no point, he never calls me with worse"
This may seem silly on it's face but really isn't worthy of being in this thread IMO given the fact that it's possible for him to be right

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There's this one guy who constantly says "yeah I knew you had xx hand" after showdown. He never ever says it before the hand is shown, only afterwords. It's annoying.
This is a live play constant which irritates the life out of me

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I'll spare the gory details of the hand. The board is J52KK. I bet the river, get called, and table my JJ. The large black woman who called me shows KT.

Her: You're lucky that river paired the board. If it didn't my trips would have been good.

Me: If the river didn't pair the board you wouldn't have had trips.

She ponders what I said for 20 seconds.
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:44 PM   #111
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The most absurd thinking I hear is from people who think it's a good idea to laugh at or criticize someone else's play.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:03 PM   #112
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

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Statements like "I thought that since there were two queens on the flop that meant my opponent was less likely to have a queen, so my pocket 10s were good." What appears on the flop has absolutely no relation to what your opponent was dealt before the flop, so unless there are four queens on board, your opponent is just as likely to have a queen in his hand as if there were none on the flop.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:19 PM   #113
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

Yesterday:

In a tournament with a 55-ish guy to my left, commenting on the play of every hand.

At 1500/3000, with 21500 in my stack, I shove AJo from the Cutoff. The bigstack on the button tanks, eventually calling with 77 and the board comes all low cards, and I bust.

Immediately, 55-year-old just blasts me, telling me what a stupid shove that was. One of the older guys agrees heartily. "Why are you pushing with that trash."

I wanted to tell them I've never seen either one of them at a FT, but I just slinked off.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:39 PM   #114
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

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Statements like "I thought that since there were two queens on the flop that meant my opponent was less likely to have a queen, so my pocket 10s were good."
I thought this was true. Am I missing something?
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:56 PM   #115
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

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Statements like "I thought that since there were two queens on the flop that meant my opponent was less likely to have a queen, so my pocket 10s were good." What appears on the flop has absolutely no relation to what your opponent was dealt before the flop, so unless there are four queens on board, your opponent is just as likely to have a queen in his hand as if there were none on the flop.
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:24 PM   #116
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1/2 at the Orleans in Vegas. 6-way limped pot, SB folds and the BB shoves all-in for $79. Everyone folds except for the Button who forcibly says "Call" and flips over his hand - 95 offsuit.

BB looks confused, turns over JJ, the dealer runs the board and the BB wins the hand.

As I'm sitting next to the Button, I ask him, "Um...you mind me asking why you called his all-in with 95?"

The guy looks at me like I'm a total noob and replies, "I had position."
This one is so good that even my wife (who plays once in a while and only in a home game) cracked up when I read it to her.
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:41 AM   #117
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

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Statements like "I thought that since there were two queens on the flop that meant my opponent was less likely to have a queen, so my pocket 10s were good." What appears on the flop has absolutely no relation to what your opponent was dealt before the flop, so unless there are four queens on board, your opponent is just as likely to have a queen in his hand as if there were none on the flop.
Well, at least it's in the right thread.....
How do you feel about QQQ flop? (Just curious.)
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:42 AM   #118
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

Here is something I just don't get at all. In NLHE, whenever someone has a pocket pair, they will always fold preflop to a raise if it is going to be a heads-up pot, and they will always say "I just needed one more caller". Absolutely EVERYONE will call in a multiway pot but not heads-up, regardless of stack sizes, position, etc. It happens so much that I have begun to think it must somehow be right. But it's not, right? Having one extra caller matters so little, right? Am I going crazy?!
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:19 AM   #119
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

I'm holding KT in Nl game.

3 callers to the flop:

TT4 rainbow.

Guy who calls alot is to my left, I pot it for 55 or so.

Turn A I bet 75

River 5

I pot it again.

Board is TT4A5

The guy goes into the tank for 2 3 minutes and calls with J9

" I thought you were bluffing "
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:37 AM   #120
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

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Here is something I just don't get at all. In NLHE, whenever someone has a pocket pair, they will always fold preflop to a raise if it is going to be a heads-up pot, and they will always say "I just needed one more caller". Absolutely EVERYONE will call in a multiway pot but not heads-up, regardless of stack sizes, position, etc. It happens so much that I have begun to think it must somehow be right. But it's not, right? Having one extra caller matters so little, right? Am I going crazy?!
Actually one of the funniest things i hear all the time at my local game is the opposite. cracks me up every time. Example Hand:

I have KK on the button, guy limps early position, folds to me after that, i make it 12, sb calls, bb calls, utg folds. Hand plays out and my KK wins a 60$ pot, as soon as its over UTG goes "damnit all i folded 33, woulda made a set" and when asked why he didnt call, there are at least 10 guys at the local card room who consistantly say

"Well if it was just you i wouldve, but i dont wanna play against 4 ppl with pocket 3s"
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