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02-25-2014 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by amazinmets73
Still waiting to hear the virtues of marriage
The OP asked what to do about his marriage not whether he should get married.

If you don't want to be married, no problem. Don't be married. But the question is what a married man who has already comingled his funds should do to get a separate bankroll.

All the "don't get married" **** should get Rapinied.
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02-25-2014 , 04:14 PM
Greebo, excellent post, thank you.

Z4relo, I think many women view marriage as just that.
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02-25-2014 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by amazinmets73

Z4relo, I think many women view marriage as just that.
A business arrangement? I don't think you'll get too far in a relationship with such mistrust. I mean, really, the last half of this thread should be posted in OOT, as I'm quite interested in what led you to hold such views.
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02-25-2014 , 06:12 PM
OOT, let's not even go there. My dating history over the last 15 months is covered extensively, and it's miserable
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02-25-2014 , 06:19 PM
BBV4L, then?
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02-25-2014 , 07:09 PM
Sure
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02-25-2014 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by z4reio
Start by not thinking marriage is a business arrangement.
Find someone who you love at least as much as yourself.

The rest will be self-explanatory after that.
It very much is a business agreement though. I know it's not very romantic to think of that way but it's real. Unfortunately too many people find out how much of a business arrangement it is when they are getting divorced.
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02-26-2014 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BiiiiigChips
It very much is a business agreement though. I know it's not very romantic to think of that way but it's real. Unfortunately too many people find out how much of a business arrangement it is when they are getting divorced.
It is an agreement. You agree to share everything. If you don't want to do that or think you'll get divorced down the road, don't get married.
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02-26-2014 , 03:49 PM
Marriage is like moving in with your best friend, and spending every possible second with your best friend, forever.

Sure, you'll get on each other's nerves, and that one annoying habit they have will become magnified and drive you utterly crazy, and you'll bicker and argue endlessly, but your lives will be so intertwined you'll be completely unable to imagine living any other way. You'll be so close to another human being that your personalities will become intertwined. If you're ever in trouble, another person is guaranteed to have your back without being asked. You'll never not have someone to hang out with and you'll never have to watch a movie or eat a meal alone ever again. When you're in a crappy mood, someone else knows how to make you feel better and just does it, without being asked. Someone who believes in you. Someone who makes you pretend to be a better person than you really are, and you do that for so long you accidentally become a better person.
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02-26-2014 , 06:51 PM
Can we take the pro/cons marriage out of this thread and somewhere else?

It's an important subject to alot of people who are married or might want to get married and the discussion should focus around how to have poker part of your life if wife isn't happy about it.
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02-27-2014 , 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkMcKay
Can we take the pro/cons marriage out of this thread and somewhere else?

It's an important subject to alot of people who are married or might want to get married and the discussion should focus around how to have poker part of your life if wife isn't happy about it.
But the founding principles upon which a successful, lasting marriage rests are 100% relevant to how one deals with a disagreement over anything as important as finances, kids, beliefs and in-laws/family.

This thread started with OP basically saying, "I want to undermine one of the four key pillars of my marriage - one of the pillars upon which my wife's trust in me rests - is this a good idea?"

We said no. Now we're explaining why. That's absolutely on topic, and if some little boys with no clue as to what a healthy, successful, lasting marriage really is are going to chime in with their naive, my whims above all else arguments, well, we have to explain why our answer is no, don't we?
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02-27-2014 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo
We said no. Now we're explaining why. That's absolutely on topic, and if some little boys with no clue as to what a healthy, successful, lasting marriage really is are going to chime in with their naive, my whims above all else arguments, well, we have to explain why our answer is no, don't we?
Preacher's back.
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02-28-2014 , 09:46 AM
Gotta love it when the point is so eloquently proven.
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03-01-2014 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Donk Quixote
I've been playing poker seriously for about 10 years now, I've always had a "real job" but I spend at least 15-20 or so hours a week playing, first online and post black friday, live. I've done pretty well, making something in the five figures just about every year. I consider poker a profitable hobby that allows me to save money and have some extra disposable income.

Poker was never really much of an issue when I was dating my wife, but now that we're married and combine finances it's become a point of contention. My wife has a very conservative approach to finances, she has always been a dedicated saver. She's the type of person who doesn't really "get" ideas like opportunity cost, calculated risks, expected value, etc, so this makes it very hard for her to accept my approach to managing my poker finances.

For example, I've been on a recent downswing, and it's very upsetting to her to know that I've lost thousands of dollars playing, to her it just seems like money wasted gambling for no reason. She understands that I've been a long term winner, but still feels that maybe I will not win in the future so wants me to stop playing after a few losing sessions. I try to explain that the money I've lost recently is nothing compared to what I've already won, but in her mind that money is already spent and she only cares about the present situation.

In addition I occasionally take shots at bigger games like 75/150 (during casino trips, these games aren't available locally to me) and my wife is very uncomfortable with me having 4-5k on the table. Although I can understand why she would feel this way, it adds a lot of stress for me because I'm trying to play properly without fear of losing the money but knowing she's sweating my losses so much makes it that much more difficult.

I've been trying to figure out a way to avoid this stress in our marriage, and my proposal was for me to take out a fixed poker bankroll out of my Roth IRA (unlike 401k, Roth Ira contributions can be withdrawn without penalty). This way I can keep that in a separate bank account, and not use my normal finances as a bankroll which is the way I always did things in the past. The downside here is that I'm missing out on all the tax-free investment gains from the IRA (although I have a large amount in there so my remaining balance would still be substantial). I really hate to have to do that rather than use the money we have in savings accounts which is accruing almost no interest, but I feel that based on the stress it's causing in our marriage it might be my best option.

And just to clarify, we are not in any dire financial circumstances, we have no trouble paying our bills or mortgage, we have a decent amount of savings, my wife's pension and my 401k, in addition to the roth ira, which is why this situation is somewhat frustrating for me.

I just wanted to put that out there to see if there were others in a similar situation, and how others have dealt with a spouse who doesn't really understand the poker lifestyle.
pretty simple solution just take whatever you will need for a starting bankroll out of your next paycheck or several paychecks and build a br with that. if your playing 75/150 as a hobby i assume your making a decent six figure income, you should be able to set aside 3-5k as a starting bankroll. if moneys no issue than whether you make 5 figures or not a year from it shouldnt really matter, although it shouldnt be a problem at any stakes with 1000/hrs a year.

edit: on another note i think the only people who have a harder time than poker pros keeping a marriage together are strippers. your not a pro but you do spend an awful lot of time playing poker for a rec.

Last edited by ih8ustfu; 03-01-2014 at 05:54 PM.
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04-05-2020 , 05:13 PM
So, 6 years later....OP...WHAT WAS THE RESULT????
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04-21-2020 , 04:25 PM
Solid bump.
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