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Old 09-22-2009, 06:10 AM   #16
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Re: Man sues casino for return of his gambling losses

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According to a quote in the article, that law only applies to illegal gambling operations.
I missed that. then he has no standing, and it's frivolous.

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Old 09-22-2009, 09:34 AM   #17
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Hey, you never know. It could be the boldest experiment in advertising history.
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I guess it's kind of the argument used against a bar serving an obviously intoxicated patron more alcohol simply so they can get the sale. i guess i can see both sides. since I'm not a lawyer I won't make a claim that the lawsuit is valid or not though!
The argument against a bar serving an intoxicated patron is different in that the legal responsibility of the bar evolved from court decisions not explicitly laid out in the law. And it was considered negligent of the bar owner to continue serving alcohol because the bar owner had to know that the drunk patron was alone and likely driving home (especially in a non urban bar).

In this case, the casino has no way of knowing the impact of their patron's losses. There is no negligence involved.

As to the argument that he was brainwashed, if the courts agree to this then all companies that advertise products that when used as intended can cause harm (i.e., cigarettes, soft drinks, fast food, cars, boats, guns, fishing rods, etc.) will then be held to the same standard and be potentially liable to similar lawsuits.

Similar cases in the past have lost. I have no doubt this case will lose too.
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:30 AM   #19
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in 1993 ex-philadelphia eagles owner leonard tose attempted to sue AC casinos for tens of millions in losses (claiming he was plied with alcohol)

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/01/ny...hen-sues.html"

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Old 09-22-2009, 11:35 AM   #20
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Hey, you never know. It could be the boldest experiment in advertising history.
I love that scene in "Lost in America" wherein Albert Brooks tries to convince a casino manager to give back all the money that his wife lost:

Brooks: As the boldest experiment in advertising history, you give us our money back.

Desert Inn Casino Manager: I beg your pardon?

Brooks: See, you’re the casino that gives. You know, I’m in advertising. These are professional opinions you’re getting.


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Old 09-22-2009, 12:02 PM   #21
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There is a lawsuit against the Rio right now. Guy may have a case actually. He was a whale. They plied him with alcohol, drugs and hookers for days to keep him gambling.

From me that would get an extra tip instead of a lawsuit.
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Old 09-22-2009, 12:23 PM   #22
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These kind of stories make headlines very often. I'm sure that the legal department of most casinos yawn when ever players try to sue them.
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:39 PM   #23
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I'm going to sue Ben and Jerry's for brainwashing me by being so damn tasty. I want all the money back I've spent and restitution for them causing me to be fat.


Fed her snacks to keep her going?

I wonder if she ordered ribs, no sauce, and a coke...

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Old 09-22-2009, 01:46 PM   #24
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I'm going to sue Ben and Jerry's for brainwashing me by being so damn tasty. I want all the money back I've spent and restitution for them causing me to be fat.


Fed her snacks to keep her going?

I wonder if she ordered ribs, no sauce, and a coke...

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Owning Mahoney.

How about this one (easier though not gambling related):


"I'll have 4 fried chickens, and a Coke"
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These kind of stories make headlines very often. I'm sure that the legal department of most casinos yawn when ever players try to sue them.
I guarantee the casino mgt responsible for actually paying the lawyers don't yawn when this happens. Defending against these suits isn't free, and we all suffer as a result - both as taxpayers and also as casino patrons ourselves.

Furthermore, seeing these suits in the news only encourages more idiots to attempt the same.
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Old 09-22-2009, 02:11 PM   #26
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I guarantee the casino mgt responsible for actually paying the lawyers don't yawn when this happens. Defending against these suits isn't free, and we all suffer as a result - both as taxpayers and also as casino patrons ourselves.

Furthermore, seeing these suits in the news only encourages more idiots to attempt the same.
Spoken like a tort reformer.

How do we "suffer" as tax payers? How do we "suffer" as casino patrons?

Can you back up your statement with facts and figures? Let's see.

And may I point out that filing a civil lawsuit is a right guaranteed by the 7th amendment to our constitution.


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Owning Mahoney.

How about this one (easier though not gambling related):


"I'll have 4 fried chickens, and a Coke"
And some dry white toast please.
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Old 09-22-2009, 02:38 PM   #28
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Spoken like a tort reformer.

And you speak a lot like like a litigator with a personal interest in the future viability of civil suits.

How do we "suffer" as tax payers? How do we "suffer" as casino patrons?

Taxpayers pay for the courts, and each additional frivolous suit adds overhead and cost. Casino patrons would ostensibly get lower rake and/or better comps if the casinos were more profitable by not having to defend against frivolous suits like this.

Can you back up your statement with facts and figures? Let's see.

I don't need to; it's pretty darn obvious that if we got rid of a few dozen frivolous suits every year that the casinos would have lower overhead costs and so would the courts.

And may I point out that filing a civil lawsuit is a right guaranteed by the 7th amendment to our constitution.

I'm pretty sure we all know that. I'm also pretty sure you wouldn't be singing 'God Bless America' if some penniless idiot and his attorney brought a frivolous civil suit against you that took you a lot of personal time and resources to defend yourself.
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Old 09-22-2009, 02:59 PM   #29
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There is a lawsuit against the Rio right now. Guy may have a case actually. He was a whale. They plied him with alcohol, drugs and hookers for days to keep him gambling.
Looks more like there is a criminal lawsuit against the gambler, which has turned a little bit ugly for Harrah's. The guy is making these allegations as part of his criminal defense. Guess maybe Harrah's should have thought twice about trying to make the guy pay the last $15 million of his $112 million in gambling loses for 07 and accepted what they'd gotten.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009...gh-rollers-in/
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Watanabe’s play amounted to 20 percent of Caesars Palace and Rio revenue in 2006 and 2007, the lawyer said.
Don't see any stories on this since July.

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How about this one (easier though not gambling related):

"I'll have 4 fried chickens, and a Coke"
...appearing 5 days a week in the Dealertainer pit at Imperial Palace.
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Old 09-22-2009, 03:14 PM   #30
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According to a quote in the article, that law only applies to illegal gambling operations.
That was the opinion of another lawyer. I just read the Statute and it doesn't say anything about "illegal gambling".

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(vpw...e=mcl-600-2939
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