M8trix Casino (San Jose, CA) hype thread - Page 3 - Poker Card Room

High Time John · 04-02-2012, 07:23 PM

Saratoga will remain open until just before the M8trix opens. M8trix will open May 1st according to owners and June 1st according to police/city.

pig4bill · 04-03-2012, 12:46 AM

Meanwhile, they continue to run radio ads. Although they have removed the opening date.

orensi · 04-03-2012, 02:20 PM

From SJ Mercury news today:

Owners of the newly-built Casino M8trix said the city of San Jose has thwarted their plans for Tuesday's "soft'' opening of the casino, as well as its grand opening planned for later this week.

Last week, the casino's owners sued the city, asking a judge to force the police to sign off on its final licensing, clearing the way for the $50 million cardroom's opening.

But a Santa Clara County Superior Court judge denied the request for an expedited hearing to meet this week's scheduled debut, and no new court date has been set, said cardroom owner Eric Swallow.

Swallow said he has "no idea when the city will say when we can open'' and that he believes the owners have passed all the city's requirements.
"Whatever I say, they will make sure it doesn't happen,'' said Swallow.

San Jose City Attorney Rick Doyle on Monday said the city is trying to work with the casino to open the ground floor "and go from there,'' and that Police Chief Chris Moore has said his department will try to ensure the club opens by month's end.

http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-...yed-time-being

youngpaul · 04-04-2012, 01:38 AM

they set the new grand opening date May 1st via facebook

**Rapini** · 04-04-2012, 06:29 PM

Looks like this place isn't open yet, so I'm moving this thread out to main B&M and renaming it to clarify that it is a hype thread. Next person who makes a personal attack gets a ban.

ItsRainingMen · 04-05-2012, 01:33 AM

alright, srs post: ultimately i feel like this SHOULD be a good thing for sj poker. even if m8trix is more casino than card room, consolidating the poker play at bay 101 should theoretically lead to better games, even if the wait lists are gonna be long as **** going forward

AngusThermopyle · 04-05-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ItsRainingMen

consolidating the poker play at bay 101 should theoretically lead to better games, even if the wait lists are gonna be long as **** going forward

Not really. Fewer total poker tables will mean a higher percentage of "sharks". Longer lists means more fish staying home, paying table games, or going to LC or Oaks.

Now, if the M8trix ( shouldn't it be M8rix? ) siphons a lot of the Table game players from Bay101, that would free up tables to play poker. As long as they set them up as poker tables and not as BlackJack/Pai Gow tables where an Asian Games dealer tries to deal Holdem.

pig4bill · 04-05-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ItsRainingMen

alright, srs post: ultimately i feel like this SHOULD be a good thing for sj poker. even if m8trix is more casino than card room, consolidating the poker play at bay 101 should theoretically lead to better games, even if the wait lists are gonna be long as **** going forward

Yeah, the 3 hour waits aren't long enough. At some point, it will take less time to drive to Vegas than to get a seat.

Cash Strapped · 04-13-2012, 03:29 PM

Overall, newer casino right next to bay 101 is good for the game. Instead of driving all over San Jose to find a decent game, within 5 minutes you can check out both and play accordingly.

I'm sure this will also entice others all over the pennisula to stop by, especially after work and for the weekend.

As for the game selections, I hope they are going to offer more entry level games/lower stakes to allow the pool of players to continue to build.

dgiharris · 04-13-2012, 05:39 PM

My gripe with GC aka M8trix is that they favor eye candy over competence. The majority of the dealers and floor lack skill and knowledge. You wouldn't believe how many of the Cal side dealers have never shuffled cards prior to being hired 1-2months ago. If they ever have to hand shuffle its like watching a monkey trying to shuffle cards. Plus, since they are unfamiliar with the games they are soooo slow in paying out wins. In fact, half the times the corporation takes control and tells the dealers who won and who lost.

As for poker, only half the dealers are decent. Too many dealers let tables run amuck and let angle shooters shoot angles and take advantage of the fish. If ever there is a problem the floor will rule with whatever is easiest and not whatever is right. Sometimes the floor will actually turn a decision over to the player just so the floor doesn't look like the bad guy. Like someone angle shoots and PURPOSEFULLY bets out of turn, EP player then goes for a c/c and the angle shooter tries to take his bet back. Floor comes over and then will say, "its okay to take it back if EP doesn't mind". So now EP is the bad guy for insisting the bet stays when he wanted to c/c or c/r...

I swear majority of the floor at GC doesn't play poker. The worst rulings I've ever witnessed happen at GC.

In any event, you can tell GC is run by a bunch of trust fund babies with zero grunt level gaming experience.

I could write a book about all the things they do wrong. Only redeeming qualities is that they do have a few good dealers and a couple of decent floor people who take good care of the regs. So its not all bad. I guess since I've lived in Vegas I'm just hyper sensitive to casino mistakes since most Vegas casinos are the gold standard in gaming and run like well oiled machines...

dgiharris · 04-13-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle

Not really. Fewer total poker tables will mean a higher percentage of "sharks". Longer lists means more fish staying home, paying table games, or going to LC or Oaks.

Now, if the M8trix ( shouldn't it be M8rix? ) siphons a lot of the Table game players from Bay101, that would free up tables to play poker. As long as they set them up as poker tables and not as BlackJack/Pai Gow tables where an Asian Games dealer tries to deal Holdem.

I'm predicting that Bay is going to be FORCED to revamp their Cal side games. That's too high a margin for them to lose without a fight.

The lack of poker is bad as Bay is home of the props and sharks. Plus, GC has a kick ass 1/3nl which is the only beatable low limit nl game in San Jose since the 1/2nl at Bay isn't beatable. I don't think the limited tables will hurt the nl games as much. I guess time will tell

donkitall · 04-13-2012, 08:07 PM

dgiharris,

Agree with a lot of what you say. They seem to favor young and attractive, at the expense of knowledge and experience. They hired many newbie dealers on the Cal side that haven't a clue how to deal. Some of the experienced Cal dealers have transferred over to poker, which makes them inexperienced at poker. Sometimes, I just SMH at some of the things they do over there.

They do have some good floor and dealers also, as you have mentioned. I play poker during the late afternoon and evenings, and the dealers are good and bad. I won't name names, but a few dealers in particular are very good. One of my favorites runs a good game, controls the action, and is pretty damn funny. I know that a lot of players love him. There are a few other dealers that also run excellent games, while others do a competent job. Unfortunately, dealers like them are rare in that room. Same with the Floor, some are just plain awful, while others are good. They are more like hosts and hostesses than Floor people. Few of them make good or decisive decisions.

I'm not sure what you mean by Trust Fund babies. They made their money running other successful businesses, and have parlayed that into this casino. I agree, it seems that the owners have no clue about running a casino. They treat the employees poorly. Health benefits are embarrassing, schedules constantly change. Some long time employees weren't re-hired at M8trix, and they didn't even get the courtesy of a phone call. Those are some of the things that I've heard around that room. Several employees are pretty disenchanted, but the attitude is where else would you go?? You need us, so live with it.

As for the Shift Managers, what a joke. Talk about incompetent. They let some patrons act like jackasses and let them stay, while others do little wrong and are booted. The bald headed one is an arrogant jerk, and is useless. They don't even know the rules in their own room. I'm playing one day, a huge argument breaks out, he comes over to mediate and he completely screws everything up. Just pathetic.

Despite all the things that place does wrong, the games are live and profitable. The 1-2-3 is juicy, as is the 2-3-5 for the most part. The food and drink are ridiculously expensive, but I've heard that the new place has more options and the prices are better. We'll see.

I'm excited for M8trix, and will give it a try. Just not holding my breath with regards to competence.

High Time John · 04-13-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dgiharris

My gripe with GC aka M8trix is that they favor eye candy over competence. The majority of the dealers and floor lack skill and knowledge. You wouldn't believe how many of the Cal side dealers have never shuffled cards prior to being hired 1-2months ago. If they ever have to hand shuffle its like watching a monkey trying to shuffle cards. Plus, since they are unfamiliar with the games they are soooo slow in paying out wins. In fact, half the times the corporation takes control and tells the dealers who won and who lost.

As for poker, only half the dealers are decent. Too many dealers let tables run amuck and let angle shooters shoot angles and take advantage of the fish. If ever there is a problem the floor will rule with whatever is easiest and not whatever is right. Sometimes the floor will actually turn a decision over to the player just so the floor doesn't look like the bad guy. Like someone angle shoots and PURPOSEFULLY bets out of turn, EP player then goes for a c/c and the angle shooter tries to take his bet back. Floor comes over and then will say, "its okay to take it back if EP doesn't mind". So now EP is the bad guy for insisting the bet stays when he wanted to c/c or c/r...

I swear majority of the floor at GC doesn't play poker. The worst rulings I've ever witnessed happen at GC.

In any event, you can tell GC is run by a bunch of trust fund babies with zero grunt level gaming experience.

I could write a book about all the things they do wrong. Only redeeming qualities is that they do have a few good dealers and a couple of decent floor people who take good care of the regs. So its not all bad. I guess since I've lived in Vegas I'm just hyper sensitive to casino mistakes since most Vegas casinos are the gold standard in gaming and run like well oiled machines...

Word. I just spent a week at the Venetian and comparing the dealers is like night and day. I did not see 1 major mistake in about 45 hours of poker at the V. The dealers there are so excellent.

The dealers at GC are horrible. Some of them can't even make side pots correctly. Many of them are not even interested in learning and becoming better at what they do for a living.

tyler_cracker · 04-13-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dgiharris

the 1/2nl at Bay isn't beatable.

plz explain (or link).

dgiharris · 04-13-2012, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler_cracker

plz explain (or link).

The 1/2nl at Bay 101 is 1-2-2 (button blind is $1) and you can only buy-in for a max of $200; however, the open is $4 and the minimum bet is $4. So, the game is in reality a 2/4nl game with a 50bb max buy-in and a $5 rake. I don't even know why they call it 1/2nl because its not.

And what makes the 1/2nl there so horrible is majority of players buy-in for $50 - $100 dollars. There is never any money on the table. Oftentimes there will be a total of $400 - $500 on the entire table

So add all that up, and the game is incredibly unbeatable. Of course the fish there don't know that. I tell people all the time, if you are going to play that game you are better off going to GC to play the 1/3nl or even taking your $200 and buying into the 2/5nl game.