Way less amusing than the alternative.

It's certainly inappropriate given today's PC climate.

Comparing Las Vegas to Atlantic City won't change the fact that both of these places rank very high on crime.

I find it hard to believe that you can type what you just typed and actually allow yourself to believe that it's true. AC is a crime infested hole. I've been playing in AC regularly for the past 20 years and it's getting worse not better. The actual streets are all torn up that driving anything over 20 mph and you feel like you're on a roller coaster. Drugs are HUGE in AC, how can you say they're not?! People are mugged DAILY, my God, look around you! The next time you drive down Pacific Ave., make sure it's in broad daylight and be sure to drive about 15 mph. I bet you'll see at least 5 hookers, 25 drug addicts, a few random tourists, and a chunk full of guys just looking for trouble. I haven't even brought up the boardwalk!

Yes, Borgata has an awesome casino and poker room, one of THE best in the country. And, if you were to just drive directly to the Borgata without ever going over by the Taj(or any other part that's not on the marina), then I can see where you might not think that AC is as bad as some people claim it to be, but, that's only a small part of AC.

I wish AC was a safer and cleaner environment. I also wish that Borgata had all the poker, and that Jitneys were not allowed on their property.

+1

Whenever I park in surface next to the Borgata Poker Room and get to see what steps on/off the Jitney, I kind of have to do a double take.

I've been playing in AC since 1989 and really sad to see how it's deteriorated to the condition its in present day.

I haven't been to AC in the last two years as I moved across the country, so I don't know what damage the big hurricane did, but I thought it was much nicer in the time I was regularly going (2004-2012) than it was the first time I went, in 1992.

20 years ago the beach was nasty and the boardwalk casino area run down, but I thought both had improved greatly. Sure a lot of the city is slums, but I never felt unsafe in the beach / boardwalk area.

I even used to walk around other parts of the city in the daytime and felt perfectly safe there as well, or at least as safe as I would walking around typical urban parts of DC, Baltimore, etc.

I think NJ(which includes Atlantic City) has some of the nicest beaches in the country. There's hasn't been any real problem or concern with polluted beaches and hypodermic needles in YEARS. And, I also think that the overall look of the boardwalk has improved for the better, as well. They've added a lot of new, wooden benches, some nice beachside restaurants and they've also added some family attractions. All of that is a plus. However, the overall element is still the same if not worse. As far as the actual city goes, I wish they could rip the whole damn thing apart and start over..

Back in 1978 that was the plan.

40 YEARS

A 1974 referendum on legalized gambling failed to pass. In an effort at revitalizing the city, New Jersey voters in 1976 approved casino gambling for Atlantic City.

The Chalfonte-Haddon Hall Hotel became Resorts International; it was the first legal casino in the eastern United States when it opened on May 26, 1978.

The introduction of gambling did not, however, quickly eliminate many of the urban problems that plagued Atlantic City. Many people have suggested that it only served to exacerbate those problems, as attested to by the stark contrast between tourism intensive areas and the adjacent impoverished working-class neighborhood.

They were first going to update the Hotels on the Boardwalk - The Claridge, Resorts, etc. Then they were going to condemn and raze buildings in the adjacent neighborhoods. Never Happened. 36 years later The Powers directing the City still haven't.

Kind of ironic that Resorts is trying to lead the charge again by updating, rebranding, turning a profit, adding the Landshark Bar & Grill, possibly a PokerStars branded B&M poker room as well as entering the NJ online gambling market.

You better do a ****in double take cause those jitney-driving-bastards love nothing more than to run you over. I'm more afraid of who's driving the bus than I am of who's getting off it.

lmao a NJ senator thinks he has the answer on how to save AC. Allow alcohol on the beach and boardwalk.

Is he an idiot or is it just me

http://7online.com/business/nj-lawma...rdwalk/323540/

Seems to work fine in Vegas and New Orleans. I think it'd be a good idea.

The thing is, things can't get much worse so why not at least try some outside-the-box thinking?

If he's an idiot then I am, too. I raised this idea a couple of years back with some people in power as a way for AC to separate itself from the casinos in neighboring states. AC can do something those states can't because their casinos are too far apart from each other.

lol so I guess I am calling you and idiot jk

I just don't see people going there just because they can drink on the boardwalk or beach. People who want to drink on the beach will, whether they are allowed or not. All you need to do is put it in a mcdonalds cup (I know first hand).

One of his best ideas, however, is to put a cruise ship slip in there which will make it more of a destination/holdover port.

A lot of people don't think it would do much to attract business but I also encountered a lot of people who said it would influence them to go to AC more often instead of PA, MD, or DE. I've been to Key West, New Orleans and LV and I think it can work in AC, too.

FWIW, I rarely drink so this isn't something that would sway me.

i've always thought that would be a great idea. even if it were just at certain times. like 10pm until 2am and excluding steel pier area.

drinking on the boardwalk would bolster AC and so would sports gambling.

in my opinion, of course.

I think there are 2 issues with AC.

The first is that going more than a block off the boardwalk is legitimately dangerous. Now I don't mean you are going to get shot or stabbed just for doing it, but there is an actual risk that it can happen that just doesn't exist in most places. This basically means that your movement is now restricted depending on where you are at and that getting to different locations is harder. That is a negative for the city as a whole.

The second is that really, contraction should be viewed as a positive to an extent. Having 12 casino's is clearly too many. The philly metro area has 3 and is fighting pretty hard against the 4th, with good reason. There is only so much money that can go around. The reason the contraction can be good though is because ultimately, the players will find another place to go, and this will strengthen the remaining rooms playerbases. Ultimately, I think AC is best served with 6-8 casino's that can be highly profitable as opposed to 12 that are less profitable to losing.

Larger rooms also tend to have more people willing to start a higher stakes game. That is a big positive.

They need to stop comparing AC to Vegas: "Vegas permits drinks on the strip..."

*Vegas also has a better climate for the majority of the months.
*They have nicer casinos and luxurious hotels.
*The grounds on these hotels are spectacular with winding swimming pools and beautifully landscaped palm trees and waterfalls that allows you to feel like you're in a tropical place, yet, a fun place(hence the bar).
*They have top notch shows with top rated performers. WAY better than AC and they also have less expensive shows/attractions to go to as well so you're not forced to pay $100+ just to see a show like you are when you're in AC.
*They have better restaurants and they have way more to choose from.
*When you walk on the strip at night, all you see is magnificent hotels and lights galore and waterfalls and pirate shows...it never ends.
*Vegas also has free parking...for everyone! What a concept.

And, even though both AC and Vegas have a high crime rate, the overall look and feel of Vegas just offers the tourist a much better experience. Did I mention that you can drink openly on the strip? No, I didn't. Because it's a mere blip on the screen.

I've never seen a more depressing place than AC. Allowing people to drink on the boardwalk/beach will only attract more of the same element that they should be looking to detract.

I need to stay away from this Thread, it's starting to depress me.

Drinking on the strip will bring more of the unwanted attention, not less. Vegas also has a million police on the strip. It's not going to be easy to patrol a dark beach at 1am.

There is no outside the box thinking, AC is done, the best thing that can happen for NJ is for a casino to go in upstate. The best thing for poker would be to have to consolidate where one area/city had all the gambling ala ac in the early 2000's.

TTHRIC; it turned into general AC discussion, so I've closed it but kept it intact for the sake of posterity. However, I also copied all posts to the AC Regional Communities thread here...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/20...ssion-1087675/