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Old 12-13-2012, 05:07 PM   #16
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Re: How do I go about getting unbanned from a casino?

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Did you ever sign anything saying you were banned and would be trespassing if you ever came back? If not, I would honestly just wait a few weeks and go back as it's likely you're not even banned. A friend of mine works security and says they do this all of the time when they don't really have enough to ban you but they hate you and don't want you back causing any trouble.
I'm thinking this isn't the best advice for anyone facing a similar problem.

While it is certainly possible that a player can be told he is banned while he isn't actually officially banned, it's also more likely that there is a ban in effect.

Casinos are private property. The owners and operators can choose who they serve and don't serve.

If a banned person decides to see what would happen, he can find himself asked to leave, professionally, or he can also be held for the police. Or, if they discover him there while banned, it could destroy any possibility that the ban could be lifted.

While a criminal change (for trespassing) might not be filed, it could be. Even a misdemeanor conviction can cause problems that last for years.

If someone tells you that you are banned, best to contact the security department and verify if it's an actual ban and how long it is for before you make a serious mistake that can't be fixed.

If a banned player hits a jackpot, they will want some ID, once the name trips a switch in a computer file, it's all over. No jackpot payout, possible free ride in a police car and more bad things to come.
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:09 PM   #17
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Re: How do I go about getting unbanned from a casino?

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If the Casino manager barred you, he has to clear you. Maybe starting with the head of Security will give you some clues on how to handle the Boss, but nobody in Security is going to un-bar you on their own.

And it does sound like there is a lot more to the story. It also seems that you had only been playing live for a month or so. Not a good way to start your casino playing career.
This is very true. But if you start with Security and they know you are coming to see them, it's less likely that you will get arrested immediately.

More likely they will tell you how to contact the manager or they will tell you to stay away altogether, if they do that, it's something you should probably listen to.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:27 PM   #18
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Re: How do I go about getting unbanned from a casino?

OP, please update this thread with how it went. And if possible, please elaborate how this transcan got knocked over. Accidently bumped into it? Or drove your car intentionally into it?

There must be more to this story...
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:47 PM   #19
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Re: How do I go about getting unbanned from a casino?

Tell them you won the lottery and want to play roulette
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:48 AM   #20
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Re: How do I go about getting unbanned from a casino?

Lifetime ban and a signed piece of paper for a trashcan outside the casino?????????
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:54 AM   #21
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Re: How do I go about getting unbanned from a casino?

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Lifetime ban and a signed piece of paper for a trashcan outside the casino?????????
Chances are he got in a fight with someone and destroyed the trash can, or was being thrown out for being drunk and did that on his way out. Obviously he left those details out .

If you simply knocked it over by accident you probably wouldnt be banned so ...
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:47 PM   #22
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Re: How do I go about getting unbanned from a casino?

Sounds like an excessive ban lol. Unless the specifically file why you got banned might be hard to get unbanned.
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:16 PM   #23
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Yes, I did sign a document stating that I had been banned for life from the casino, and I believe it was the property? manager who stated I would be arrested for trespassing if I entered the premise quite vehemently. So now I'm going to try set up a meeting with the security manager and apologize and see what happens. Thanks to everyone who posted advice.
Give it 3 months from the ban then call security and let them know you were banned and ask who you should talk to regarding the matter. Show contrition, concise, and sensible regardless of how the conversation goes. If a negative response, try back after 6 months.
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Old 12-25-2012, 02:10 AM   #24
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Re: How do I go about getting unbanned from a casino?

If you do get a meeting with someone about this, I'd recommend treating it like you were in front of a judge in court. In essence, you are. Wear appropriate business attire, etc. It won't hurt your appeal that you've learned from your mistake if you show up dressed like a professional. Also, don't call the person you meet with "dude". Mr. or Mrs. (Miss) is how you should address the individual. If this is too much, you don't want back in very badly.

Oh, one question you might want to have an answer for is: "how have your changed your behavior so we won't have a repeat of this incident?"

Remember, this meeting is about them, not you. How will having you back in their casino not cause them harm or be an annoyance?

Also, if you caused any damage, offer to pay for it.

Good luck!
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Old 12-25-2012, 03:28 AM   #25
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Re: How do I go about getting unbanned from a casino?

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Unless you were actually given a trespass by the cops, of course you can enter the property. Just go to the lobby and ask who you can talk to. Where you'll get in trouble is if you try to just play.

Just remember to be contrite and humble. Tell them you were brash and used poor judgement, you're sorry, and would like another chance. As long as you are an adult about it (and it was only a silly trash can prank like you said), they'll probably let you back.
This is correct as far as i see it. when your doing advantage plays in house games, a back off is basically just the casino asking you to leave. Unless you have been read the Trespass Act at some point, i think you are legally alright, even to just go sit down and play untill asked to leave. However, going in, talking to the person in charge is probably going to give you more longevity in said establishment. That and keeping in mind their devotion to the garbage cans on the premises.
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Old 12-26-2012, 02:17 AM   #26
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Re: How do I go about getting unbanned from a casino?

Ok, I called the casino & spoke w/ one of their security managers & he said he'd send my case up the food chain to the security boss and that I should get a letter in the mail as to whether I have been unbanned, remain banned, or unbanned after a set amount of time. Will update if letter comes.

And for the record, what happened was I forgot my ID & I live 50 miles away, so I was a little mad and tipped said trashcan over. Normally I am a classy guy.

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Old 12-26-2012, 02:26 AM   #27
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Re: How do I go about getting unbanned from a casino?

OP,

I gotta be honest, this thread and your posts reek of BS. There is a lot more to this story.

the reason this is important is that it shows an unwillingness to accept responsibility for whatever the hell it is you've done.

The more severe your action, the greater your contrition will need to be. The fact that the Casino Manager banned you and you actually signed a piece of paper (incidentally, how did they know your name if you forgot your ID???) does not bode well for you.

Basically, my point is that in order for your banned to be lifted, you've got to eat some crow, walk in there with hat in hand, and look the powers that be in the eyes and apologize.

If you think you can undo this damage with a phone call and a quick email you are mistaken. The casino gets thousands of customers per month and they just couldn't care less about a punk kid who threw a temper tantrum...

You need to figure out a way to physically meet with the powers that be and look someone in the eyes and apologize... Or at the very least, send a hand written letter of apology to the powers that be and literally beg on your hands and knees to be given another chance...
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Old 12-26-2012, 04:24 AM   #28
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Re: How do I go about getting unbanned from a casino?

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OP, please update this thread with how it went. And if possible, please elaborate how this transcan got knocked over. Accidently bumped into it? Or drove your car intentionally into it?

There is more to this story...
fyp a bit...

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And for the record, what happened was I forgot my ID & I live 50 miles away, so I was a little mad and tipped said trashcan over. Normally I am a classy guy.

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with this being added to the story...

there is still more to this story OP has not told us...

in my drunken experience doing casino jackassery they are usually very lenient to a point...they want your money, even if it is small amount!

OP this is the picture you are trying to paint:

I got ID'd, didnt bring my ID to a casino like a noob, i was asked to leave and escorted out, i "tipped" over a trashcan on the way out, the casino manager perma banned me cuz he was swinging his D around for a simple "tipped" over trash can!

This is likely the story:
I had been playing poker for a bit, (possibly a little drunk, but not actually necessary in this story...the true version), got heated/in a bit of a spat at the table...was asked for my ID...didn't have my ID while i was in a casino like a noob (which is entirely my own fault as an recently legal to gamble adult)...got even more heated...security was called over...started yelling and creating a scene...now I am being physically walked out the door...during this escort out the door yelling continued...I get out the door...Now I (likely) make some physical threats to security and floor/managers that are walking me out...to show how serioius and tough I am about these threats I kick over a trash can LIKE A BOSS!...Casino manager has decided that I am more trouble than I am worth for the rest of my adult life and institutes a life long perma ban!...i create a thread on 2+2 and tell 10% of the entire story hoping people can give me good tips...but hey,
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Normally I am a classy guy.
i am pretty sure the second version is closer to the real story than what you are telling us! I know casinos are lenient...i was escorted out of the hard rock casino in vegas by this tiny power-hungry security guard trying to swing his dick around on me...well the whole time we were walking out he was telling me how he would beat my ass, i told him i would bury him, him back at me, i told him to swing and a general friendly back and forth like that...well the last thing he told me i was never welcome there again....i was there the next day to cash in sports bet tickets, and he saw me! nothing came of it ever again...so you did something major OP! imo at least!
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:56 AM   #29
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Re: How do I go about getting unbanned from a casino?

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OP,

I gotta be honest, this thread and your posts reek of BS. There is a lot more to this story.

the reason this is important is that it shows an unwillingness to accept responsibility for whatever the hell it is you've done.

The more severe your action, the greater your contrition will need to be. The fact that the Casino Manager banned you and you actually signed a piece of paper (incidentally, how did they know your name if you forgot your ID???) does not bode well for you.

Basically, my point is that in order for your banned to be lifted, you've got to eat some crow, walk in there with hat in hand, and look the powers that be in the eyes and apologize.

If you think you can undo this damage with a phone call and a quick email you are mistaken. The casino gets thousands of customers per month and they just couldn't care less about a punk kid who threw a temper tantrum...

You need to figure out a way to physically meet with the powers that be and look someone in the eyes and apologize... Or at the very least, send a hand written letter of apology to the powers that be and literally beg on your hands and knees to be given another chance...
You really don't think this is a bit much?
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:59 PM   #30
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Ok, I called the casino & spoke w/ one of their security managers & he said he'd send my case up the food chain to the security boss and that I should get a letter in the mail as to whether I have been unbanned, remain banned, or unbanned after a set amount of time. Will update if letter comes.
Guess getting unbanned wasn't worth a 100 mile round trip.
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