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Originally Posted by pfapfap
What's your thought on whether they should be allowed in a non-smoking poker room?
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My thoughts are that they should be allowed. There is no carbon monoxide and the only nicotine in the liquid which gets atomized into vapor and inhaled. I have never heard of someone catching a smoking addiction from purely second hand smoke so since there is no carbon monoxide I can't imagine how and e-cig would be harmful at all and pose a threat to giving someone close by a nicotine addiction habit.
When I first started bringing them into poker rooms and the casino (sometime in 2011) I had no problem using them. The floor and personnel didn't have a problem with them. Nowadays they are more weary and I can't personally see any threat to be honest or any potential threat. But the general response when casino personnel sees me smoking it in a non-smoking poker room is to stop me basically because they don't know how safe it is (Showboat told me they would turn a blind eye though). Like I said, I don't see a threat with only water vapor and it's hard to believe it could get someone addicted to nicotine who is close by. But there is some understanding to their argument. The e-cigs are new and they aren't even passed by the FDA yet. There is some talk from legislators that they want to regulate it because it contains nicotine. People fear what they don't know and e-cigs are still relatively new and unregulated.
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Originally Posted by LMFAOhaha
It's not an issue because not all e-cigarette's contain nicotine; however, even the ones that do contain nicotine are not harming others with carbon monoxide and other harmful chemicals because it's only releasing water vapor.
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Pretty much true.
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Originally Posted by DCJ001
What's exhaled from an e-cig is exactly the same as what's exhaled from a traditional cig. This is what I would say to any poker room director.
If anyone disagrees, that's up to them. I'd say, "prove it" You'd say, "prove that it does." I'd say, "I don't have to."
If smoking is not permitted, that's all that there needs to be sai. It's the same thing.
I'm done here because I realize that some people will make any excuse to justify their drug addictions.
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I don't think there is any proof that there is smoke and all the proof to say it is water vapor. The tested dangers of these things to second hand people not using them nearby is unproven totally because they have never really been tested. But the natural assumption is weighted heavily to assume that they are for the most part by and large harmless.
I quit smoking at the end of June. And the e-cig has helped me massively with the oral fixation of smoking and the curtailing the nicotine habit. I use the gum too. But it's better to see e-cigs around than real cigarettes and they are a great crutch to quitting. I hope to stop using nicotine altogether after another 2 or 3 months. I have fallen off the wagon a few times already but coming from a 2.5 pack/day habit, I am happy to pat myself on the back at my progress. Eventually I'll be nicotine free. And the e-cig is helping me do it.