Was playing a small $40 tourney the other day at Delaware Park. Guy sits down at the table with those Google glasses. Kid at the table asks him to take them off since they have a camera but he refuses. Floor rules they can stay on. Irrelevant since he was knocked out the very next hand but...thoughts on if they should be allowed to play?

Ask the Floor if you can use your phone to take a video of the players at the high limit poker and pit tables.

How about him and his fellow Floors, or the dealers, or security, or the waitresses?

Ask him if he can wear the Google glass at a BlackJack or Roulette table.

Old school here. Not a fan of recording devices in the casino. Privacy more than worried that they will be used to cheat me at the poker table.

They are banned from my room (I believe the whole casino). Never actually saw anyone with them.

It's just going to get worse. How soon before you can speak the action into a tablet and get real time advice? Rooms are going to have to ban all electronics until that brave new world comes along w/ ppl having chips in their brains. Then poker will disappear altogether along w/ any table game w/ shifting odds.

At this point, I know enough about them that they aren't useful. Likely worse that your cell phone for taking a picture or video without anyone knowing.

Video max length is less than a minute, and the battery life isn't good either.

A friend of mine was one of the first batch to have them. My info comes from him and personal experience. At this time, of very limited value in a poker setting. No better than a quick glance at your phone.

Should be banned, quite conceivably will be banned from every poker room as floors become more and more aware of them.

The house will always have the edge in the electronic warfare. If people start using super discreet wearable electronics, they'll have devices built to detect them. You're talking about consumer grade gear vs corporations with millions of dollars to invest (and way more to protect) in counter-measures.

BTW I personally hate the idea of Google Glass. Won't wear them, won't associate with people who do wear them.

The fact that they make you look like a massive nerd is shameful enough but I think social pressure will prevent things like Google Glass from ever taking off as anything but a very niche-market item.

If anyone wanted to use them for evil... there are already much more discreet ways to do such things.

What exactly are you (general) afraid of?

he doesn't wana be seen on youtube asking someone to take the glasses off

Very soon, much sooner than people are expecting, google glass on steroids will be embedded in contact lenses and you won't know they're wearing them.

They can stream live video, so there is no max length.

They can also run apps. It would be detected with current apps, but I wouldn't like someone running a stove in the middle of a hand.

LOL. Maybe in the movies.

Originally Posted by Uh*Oh
Very soon, much sooner than people are expecting, google glass on steroids will be embedded in contact lenses and you won't know they're wearing them.


That's the least of what's coming within 25 years. for instance, your computer will be able to answer your phone in your voice and the caller won't know it's not you.

The public really has no idea the gains in processing power and miniaturization that are happening right now and what it means for the near future, and that doesn't take into account new and unexpected developments. I doubt you're interested in learning more, but for anyone else who is, check out some of James Martin's (Pulizter Prize nominee) books, he made billions creating and predicting technology advances for IBM and others.

LOL, yeah, I worked at two chip companies in Silicon Valley, but I have no idea about what can be put into a contact lens "very soon".

Finally, we agree on something

^^^This. Ask the floor if you want someone saying, "I know where you live and if you don't fold, I'm going to going to make your life a living hell."

My brother is a product manager (what ever that means?) for google. He works on the glasses. I've tried them out. They suck. The biggest problem is battery life. Until there is a huge change in battery technology they will remain a mostly useless novelty. Battery technology has changed very little in the past decade or so.

On a positive note we won't have to call survalience any more. Just ask the guy wearing google glass.


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The fact that it "sucks" is no reason to allow it. If it takes pictures, streams video, and does facial recognition (which it does), I would make a stink until either the glass or I were removed.

The ability to take a picture or video discretely is the part that's missing. If you think the guys look like dorks wearing them. Wait until you see them looking at you funny, tilting their head up or announcing "OK GLASS" and then touching the Glass, their phone or announcing "TAKE PICTURE" or "START VIDEO".

I'm sure I could take pics and videos with my Samsung Galaxy phone much easier without being detected. Currently most places will allow you to use the phone, in some cases (MGM Vegas) while in a hand.


Now, is there a "NEED" for GG at the poker table? As far as I can tell, nope. But there is also no NEED for sunglasses (which could be spyglasses taking pics/video) or earbuds/headphones(which could be feeding you information).

Ban all electronics at the table? Good luck. That ship has sailed. Educate people on etiquette and let those that wish to be distracted do so. I'm sure I've missed out on information while checking a text, responding to email, or even pokerstoving a hand after it was done.

Something they could be real real useful for, is making recordings of people you play against regularly to study. It would be VERY easy to memorize everyone's tells when in certain situations, given enough film to watch.

I play against the same group of of 20 - 30 guys in an often extremely juicy 2/5 game. I've learned a lot just from watching, but you could pick up so much more with recordings to go over.

The vast majority of people give off the same body language (however small it may be) consistently in the the same situations. In the heat of the moment, you could miss it.

All IMO of course.

So when I'm an old man what sort of gambling game will be available to me? Wild ass guesses are welcome.

Games w/ built in house edges that can not be eliminated in the slightest way, like craps and slots. Casino Arizona will not even allow my dumb phone to sit on the table at Black Jack. If I want to make/take a call I have to step away. That bit about chips in brains isn't that far fetched. I saw some futurist talking the other day about how it will come about that we will be able to swallow knowledge. Imagine that: A time might come where somebody could swallow a pill and play great poker. There goes that game.

Yeah I don't give a **** about this at all. There are tons of places that don't allow recording and everyone records anyway and no one cares. Why is this any different? And like someone said, it's painfully obvious when someone is recording.

Also btw I would pay out the ass for a subscription service where you could watch someone play live poker streaming through google glass. Like I would never leave my house again.

I wonder how long it will be before this type of technology is capable of creating hand histories from video streams and is able to basically be used as a HUD for live poker using facial recognition...

I disagree that it's painfully obvious to see glass recording.

Worst case scenario (right now):

Multiple players could wear glass to a tournament. They could start a google hangout (video chat) as they take their seat. Phil Ivey could be sitting In his hotel room on his laptop directing each player, effectively 'multi-accounting' a tourney.

Honestly, just like most questions in poker, it's the floors rule.

I've played in rooms where you're allowed to be on the phone, in a hand. I've played in rooms where you can have anything(within reason) on the table, including your phone. I've played in rooms where you can't even have your phone in your hands while in a hand.

For glass, the only thing I would be worried about it the video recording, but who cares. Most places have rules against taking pictures, so that right there would be a violation in most rooms, but if the floor rules okay, it's okay.