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07-25-2012, 01:24 PM
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stranger
Join Date: May 2012
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Re: Does Money Won In A Bad Beat Jackpot Play?
I know you specifically said BBJ. I have not had an experience with that.
However here in Daytona Beach, i won a High hand. i took the chips and slid them under my stack. About 1/2 an hour later someone questioned it and i had to take it off the table. This wa a 1-2 NL table with a max buyin oF 200. Didn't bother me either way....
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07-25-2012, 02:21 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: I've been all over. Now Seattle.
Posts: 10,669
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Re: Does Money Won In A Bad Beat Jackpot Play?
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Originally Posted by abracadabrab
Yet, say I make a prop bet vs a player at my table on the color of the flop.... Does that money have to play? I technically won it from a player at the table.
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Such a bet would almost certainly be against the rules, so technically you shouldn't even take the money off your stack to pay off when you lose. That's a bit like saying technically you should pay for dinner or tip the server out of your wallet, not off your stack. In practice, as long as you're not playing red-or-black for entire stacks, most dealers and most rooms don't really care.
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07-26-2012, 06:12 PM
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 837
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Re: Does Money Won In A Bad Beat Jackpot Play?
Wow..interesting thread.
I had never heard of any casino forcing you to add promotion money to your stack at the table. Of course, as mentioned you could simply leave the table right after being paid and go back on the list.
I have only been involved in one BBJ...got a table share for around $300 and had the option....it was a limit game anyway...but I pocketed it.
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07-27-2012, 02:24 PM
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#19
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 16,565
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Re: Does Money Won In A Bad Beat Jackpot Play?
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Originally Posted by abracadabrab
Is it common to pay out the bigger shares with paper checks?? I could see it happening if the jackpot was huge enough. Even if it was, say, $100,000 and the hand that got bad beat got 50%. Do they not have $50,000 in chips to pay him out?
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Are you kidding? Who's going to walk out with the chips? They're getting cashed in, so they would need a hundred grand in cash. In which case the players would probably ask for a check. So they just cut to the chase.
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07-27-2012, 02:39 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: I've been all over. Now Seattle.
Posts: 10,669
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Re: Does Money Won In A Bad Beat Jackpot Play?
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Are you kidding? Who's going to walk out with the chips? They're getting cashed in, so they would need a hundred grand in cash. In which case the players would probably ask for a check. So they just cut to the chase.
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The one time I saw an entire BBJ paid out, in Tunica, it was a total of like $90k paid out entirely in chips -- $45k, with a bunch of $1000 pumpkins, to the "loser", $27k to the "winner", and $700+ to everyone playing hold 'em in the room at the time. Sure, it's a pain for your cage staff to convert them back to cash, but if there's even a small chance that one of the big winners stops by the pit to do some high stakes gambling, it's worth it.
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07-27-2012, 04:32 PM
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#21
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 8,228
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Re: Does Money Won In A Bad Beat Jackpot Play?
Here in California, the limit ones can play if you want them to, and the NL ones don't.
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07-27-2012, 05:25 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,401
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Re: Does Money Won In A Bad Beat Jackpot Play?
Also made a straight flush at Caesar's once. They didn't really say anything to me one way or the other, but my money was put on the table and in play. But I'm pretty sure I could have pocketed it/kept it out of play if I had wanted to.
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07-27-2012, 05:30 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Vegas
Posts: 7,756
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Re: Does Money Won In A Bad Beat Jackpot Play?
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Originally Posted by AKQJ10
Sure, it's a pain for your cage staff to convert them back to cash, but if there's even a small chance that one of the big winners stops by the pit to do some high stakes gambling, it's worth it.
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DING! Makes me grit my teeth when someone hits a progressive royal for $5K and while waiting for the payout the wife or hubby comes by to celebrate with the player and we hear "soon as we get paid we're going to the roulette table!"
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08-12-2012, 11:12 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Over Yonder
Posts: 310
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Re: Does Money Won In A Bad Beat Jackpot Play?
In "most" rooms, it doesn't play unless YOU put it on table.
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08-12-2012, 11:55 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 5,976
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Re: Does Money Won In A Bad Beat Jackpot Play?
It seems like if players were required to keep winnings on the table it'd result in a lot of broken tables. Not too many people are keen on sitting at a table 5,000+ big blinds deep.
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08-13-2012, 02:08 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: I've been all over. Now Seattle.
Posts: 10,669
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Re: Does Money Won In A Bad Beat Jackpot Play?
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Originally Posted by starvingwriter82
It seems like if players were required to keep winnings on the table it'd result in a lot of broken tables. Not too many people are keen on sitting at a table 5,000+ big blinds deep.
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Right on... because people don't understand the concept of an effective stack.
(Not too many table shares are $10k or more.)
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08-13-2012, 12:26 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Havana Daydreamin'
Posts: 2,960
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Re: Does Money Won In A Bad Beat Jackpot Play?
I think it is interesting that a table share must stay in play - it wasn't won or lost based upon the skill of that player.
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08-13-2012, 02:16 PM
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HP JoY 2011 wienerbucket
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: ...
Posts: 20,314
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Re: Does Money Won In A Bad Beat Jackpot Play?
Regardless of room policy, it's a good idea to get up and leave after hitting a big jackpot win, anyway.
This is a unique high-emotion event. Very few people here have experience playing their A-game after such an event. What usually happen to players who stay is they get too loose and spewy.
Poker's an emotional game. The adrenaline fueling the emotion "OMG, what do I do with this big payday I just got?!" is very likely to affect how you play. The regret of losing it hurts worse than the joy of winning it feels good.
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08-13-2012, 07:47 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 7,750
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Re: Does Money Won In A Bad Beat Jackpot Play?
yeap... get up immediately and walk over to the 5/10 table and double up.
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08-13-2012, 08:03 PM
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adept
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Garden State
Posts: 869
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Re: Does Money Won In A Bad Beat Jackpot Play?
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Originally Posted by AKQJ10
The one time I saw an entire BBJ paid out, in Tunica, it was a total of like $90k paid out entirely in chips -- $45k, with a bunch of $1000 pumpkins, to the "loser", $27k to the "winner", and $700+ to everyone playing hold 'em in the room at the time. Sure, it's a pain for your cage staff to convert them back to cash, but if there's even a small chance that one of the big winners stops by the pit to do some high stakes gambling, it's worth it.
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THIS.
Haven't seen it ever, but imagine that I'm racking up soon after. As mentioned, expecting to be too excited for anything but a scotch and cigar...
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