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Old 07-31-2008, 05:55 PM   #16
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Re: Carnival Cruise Pokerpro tables

I was on the canival inspiration a couple of weeks ago. There one table spread 1/2 nl with a $6 max rake. Buy in was 40 min with no max. There was harldy anyone playing, maybe a total of 10 hours over 4 days not counting the tournys. The play was terrible but I did manage to get stacked twice in the first 30 min. Set over Set and then KK on a 666 flop. After that was able to make a great return playing abc poker.
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Old 06-20-2010, 09:56 PM   #17
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Re: Carnival Cruise Pokerpro tables

I am going on a Carnival cruise very soon here. A couple of questions:

1. Being that the cruise is "cashless" and everything is linked to a credit card or debit card, how do they work the casino? Do you just swipe your card and your winnings/losses are added or deducted from it?

2. How many tables do they have going? I'm interested in 1/2 NL.

3. Can someone give an explanation of what the PokerPro tables are and how they work?

Thanks.
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:06 PM   #18
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I am going on a Carnival cruise very soon here. A couple of questions:

1. Being that the cruise is "cashless" and everything is linked to a credit card or debit card, how do they work the casino? Do you just swipe your card and your winnings/losses are added or deducted from it?

2. How many tables do they have going? I'm interested in 1/2 NL.

3. Can someone give an explanation of what the PokerPro tables are and how they work?

Thanks.
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Generally, they ask you to create a credit on your room key. If you have money left, it is credited to your account.

There will be one table and it is will be limit. The cruise I was on the first night it was 2/4 and then they moved it to 3/6. After 2 days, it will be more like a home game since you'll know most of the players.

The PokerPro tables are electronic without a dealer. You'll swipe your room key and decide how much money you have in your stack. You'll need to "cup" your cards. The best way (which got shown to me) is to cup your card and use your room key to touch the cards to have they lift up (it take a little practice, but watch someone else who seems to know what they are doing).
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:39 PM   #19
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Re: Carnival Cruise Pokerpro tables

I was on the Carnival Fascination a few weeks ago for a 5 night cruise from Jacksonville to the Bahamas.

on this table, you used your room key as your players card. it's basically a cash advance, but you don't pay any %. the final night you have to be sure to go to the cage and get your money. If not, then you might not get your money. The pit boss/casino manager wasn't really clear on what would happen.

The game played was 1/2NL. the rake is sick, but the game is still beatable since the majority of the players were horrible.

$50 min buy in, 200 max. I don't believe I ever saw more than 8 players at 1 time playing.

they tried to get a one table tourney going for $120 (I think) on a day at sea in the a.m., but only 5 of us showed up, so we just played cash.

a couple times when there was nobody at the table, my wife and I just sat down and played against each other for 10 minutes, the small blind always folding preflop so no rake. Why? to draw a crowd, and because the manager would see us trying to get a game and he'd buy us a drink (huge bonus on a cruise ship since the drink prices are sick!).

Last year I went on a Royal Caribbean cruise out of miami. Live dealer on that cruise. Also, the people out of miami had more money in general and weren't afraid to show off (and lose). If poker on a cruise is a big thing to you, I would do Royal Caribbean over Carnival. also, the food is better on royal caribbean.
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Old 07-11-2010, 04:16 PM   #20
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I was on the Carnival Fascination a few weeks ago for a 5 night cruise from Jacksonville to the Bahamas.

on this table, you used your room key as your players card. it's basically a cash advance, but you don't pay any %. the final night you have to be sure to go to the cage and get your money. If not, then you might not get your money. The pit boss/casino manager wasn't really clear on what would happen.

The game played was 1/2NL. the rake is sick, but the game is still beatable since the majority of the players were horrible.

$50 min buy in, 200 max. I don't believe I ever saw more than 8 players at 1 time playing.

they tried to get a one table tourney going for $120 (I think) on a day at sea in the a.m., but only 5 of us showed up, so we just played cash.

a couple times when there was nobody at the table, my wife and I just sat down and played against each other for 10 minutes, the small blind always folding preflop so no rake. Why? to draw a crowd, and because the manager would see us trying to get a game and he'd buy us a drink (huge bonus on a cruise ship since the drink prices are sick!).

Last year I went on a Royal Caribbean cruise out of miami. Live dealer on that cruise. Also, the people out of miami had more money in general and weren't afraid to show off (and lose). If poker on a cruise is a big thing to you, I would do Royal Caribbean over Carnival. also, the food is better on royal caribbean.
I'm doing this same cruise except 4 days. Did you find any poker tables at the ports in the Bahamas?
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Old 07-11-2010, 04:44 PM   #21
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Re: Carnival Cruise Pokerpro tables

Hey folks I work on a carnival ship (not in the casino). Let me tell you one thing about the 1/2 NLgame on these poker pro things..... I'm not sure where you found limit being played, most ships spread 1/2NL.
It is hands down the juiciest poker game you will ever see in your entire life. Despite the high rake (which does change from ship to ship), the players so so TERRIBLY BAD that it is hugely profitable.


If your table isn't constantly full you have a ****ty casino manager, every cruise I have been on it's always full until the wee hours of the morning.
Buy in min is 40 or 60, and usually isn't capped (although rarely will someone buy in for more than 150ish).
People will plunk down and station off with K high over and over again, don't bluff overbet top pair good kicker etc etc and profit.


Have the PPro tables is great (for a ship) because casino staff doesn't know **** all about how to run a game. Enjoy the game, have a good time...
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Old 07-11-2010, 04:45 PM   #22
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Re: Carnival Cruise Pokerpro tables

Oh- and you won't find poker in the bahamas, unless the Major tournaments are at Atlantis when you go there.
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Old 07-11-2010, 04:50 PM   #23
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Hey folks I work on a carnival ship (not in the casino). Let me tell you one thing about the 1/2 NLgame on these poker pro things..... I'm not sure where you found limit being played, most ships spread 1/2NL.
It is hands down the juiciest poker game you will ever see in your entire life. Despite the high rake (which does change from ship to ship), the players so so TERRIBLY BAD that it is hugely profitable.


If your table isn't constantly full you have a ****ty casino manager, every cruise I have been on it's always full until the wee hours of the morning.
Buy in min is 40 or 60, and usually isn't capped (although rarely will someone buy in for more than 150ish).
People will plunk down and station off with K high over and over again, don't bluff overbet top pair good kicker etc etc and profit.


Have the PPro tables is great (for a ship) because casino staff doesn't know **** all about how to run a game. Enjoy the game, have a good time...
Sounds effin sweet Now I just gotta get the GF to let me play a bit!
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Old 07-11-2010, 10:34 PM   #24
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Re: Carnival Cruise Pokerpro tables

I played a 1/2 NL game on one of these on a cruise I went on last year. I don't know what the rake was but it was pennies no doubt. Fountains and fountains of money rained down from every direction directly into my stack.
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:50 AM   #25
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I played a 1/2 NL game on one of these on a cruise I went on last year. I don't know what the rake was but it was pennies no doubt. Fountains and fountains of money rained down from every direction directly into my stack.
I guarantee you that the rake was huge. There are only two kinds of rakes on cruises: gigantic and gargantuan.
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Old 07-13-2010, 03:18 AM   #26
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Re: Carnival Cruise Pokerpro tables

Mine was a 1/2 NLH table. It ran everynight and the play was super limpfest, which just bloated the insane rake. Also with 50% of the table unable to get their head around touch screen hole card technology the speed of the play was close to unbearable.
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Old 08-08-2010, 11:58 PM   #27
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Re: Carnival Cruise Pokerpro tables

Just got back from the Carnival Fascination. I liked the Poker Pro table. Made it feel more like online. It shows everyone's name and stack size which is nice.
I did not have one problem with the table, everyone picked up on it real quick. I wish it had a slider for betting, thats about it.
Cruise ship poker makes PS 10 NL look like tables full of Ivery and Durrr.
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:09 AM   #28
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Re: Carnival Cruise Pokerpro tables

I've been on a few carnival cruises. I haven't played any of the tournaments, so I can't tell you about those. The following is true for every cruise I have been on:
1. There is 1 table, never more.
2. The only cash game I have seen played is 1/2 NL. Min buyin is 40-50. No cap that I am aware of
3. Play starts with about 5 people somewhere between 8 and 9 PM.
4. The table fills up for a couple of hours.
5. People start leaving around 11 PM for whatever entertainment is scheduled.
6. Play continues shorthanded until about 1 AM.
7. The play is agonizingly slow. People's family come up and talk to them while they are at the table. They don't realize that we are waiting on them. Other people get tired of reminding them to play, so they start talking to someone else or space out and then don't notice when play is on them. It's a vicious cycle. Very few dealer dealt games run slower than the average cruise games.
8. The tables are pretty easy to use. Within a few hands, a new person is generally pretty comfortable with the table.

About the players:
1. There is 1, maybe 2, other solid players at the table. It's easy to avoid them.
2. 20% have probably played poker less than 10 times in their life. They figure they are on vacation on they will give it a try.
3. 40-50% are limping, calling stations.
4. 10-20% are too aggressive. They are quick to shove their stack in against the calling stations with marginal holdings. They don't adjust, however, and shove light against you also. They interpret your first fold as you being a supernit and that they can always bet you out of the pot.
5. There is generally a lot of limping PF. However, sometimes one of the aggressive guys feels the need to raise every single pot.
6. There is very little 3betting.
7. Don't expect people to notice that you haven't played a hand in an hour (that's about 25 hands). Your 3-4bb raise will still get 5 callers.
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:21 AM   #29
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I guarantee you that the rake was huge. There are only two kinds of rakes on cruises: gigantic and gargantuan.
10 percent up to $6 is not a huge rake, especially with no tipping and lots of donkeys.
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:29 AM   #30
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Princess Cruise Pokerpro TR/Rant

I just got back from 10 day Alaskan Cruise starting from San Francisco. I was on the Sea Princess ship, which had one PokerPro table.

It was $1/2, 50 min, 200 max.
The rake was 10% up to $7 and they raked pots with no flop.

The donkament structure was $50+$10 with 1500 chips, blinds starting at 50/100 with the blinds going up every 15 minutes. (lol, no I didn't play those)

Summary

Overall, I ended up losing $265 over 400 or 500ish hands. The mega whales ended up sucking out on a ton of hands on the first few days of play and the 4 other 25/8 "regs" ended up valuetowning them to death before I could take my money back. One of the more annoying things of this cruise was that 3 of the regs were two brothers and an uncle, who keep talking during the hands. I might fold like 20 hands in a row and when I raise, they will say "WHOAA!! I didn't see this guy play yet, or they would start guessing my hand out loud while the whales were playing with me. After showing so many solid starting hands playing about 15/11, even the mega whales started to catch on. I found it difficult to get paid off during the last 2 days of play, where as the annoying obnoxious 25/8 "regs" kept getting paid off. On one of the last 50 hands, there were 3 limpers in front of me and I raised to $16 with kings (because when I raised to $10-12 with KQ and get 4 callers I whiff too much). The whales actually folded. Where as the "obnoxious looking" "reg" 3bet shoves with aces and two whales call.

Some Afterthoughts

I only played live at a casino once before this cruise and it was b4 I actually learned the game seriously, so I don't really have much of a comparison.

1. People talking during the hand pisses me off.
2. Playing against a family who call themselves sharks playing 25/8 pisses me off.
3. Open limping small pocket pairs is not a leak here.
4. Overbetting preflop and on the flop with strong hands is very profitable.
5. Betting 1/4 or even 1/5 of the pot on the river with top pair hands is not exploitable. People tend to look at bet sizing like $5/$7/$10 instead of $15/$30/$60.
6. People seem to be more willing to put a ton of money in on draws then with top pair.
7. Playing with the same players everyday sucks.

8. I asked the 25/8 "obnoxious looking" "reg" who probably won $800-$1000 during the trip what stakes he plays online. He said he doesn't because he thinks it's rigged.
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