Couple questions for all the experts here. (1) why do rooms ban racks on the table? (2) what are your feelings on players making change for each others' blinds?

Playing out of a rack slows down the game. Racks on a table should not be a problem, as long a players use a working stack.

I don't care if you want to make change.... but don't do it in the betting area, and don't do it while the action is on you or the other player. Don't think it's all that helpful.

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1) It's easy for cards to get hidden and lost under racks, it slows things down to play out of them, and it's easier to quickly pick up and leave if your chips are already racked. Poker is an emotional game. If a player takes a bad beat, in the time it takes someone to find a rack and put the chips in them, he may cool down enough to want to keep playing.

2) From their stacks? I have no problem with it, aside from what psand said above. What issue concerns you here?

I was skeptical that taking the racks would speed up the game...but I was in the box one night in a room that put that rule into effect at the stroke of midnight, and the difference was shocking! I couldn't BELIEVE how much faster the game went, it was night and day.

As for making change, I find it a little unsettling when someone takes it upon themselves to do this--he shouldn't be touching anyone else's money without first getting permission, even if he is leaving the proper amount in exchange.

I have a major pet peeve if I put out a quarter for my bb I don't want the player next to me to grab it and give me 5 reds. I sometimes even position it so it's out of their reach. The proper thing to do is just ask me "want change" am I out of line

Players shouldn't be touching other players chips w/o permission. But if I am playing and someone does this it doesn't bother me all that much .... I understand they think they are being helpful.


years ago when I dealt in a game with quarters on the table, sometimes I would change out the big blind with quarters before dealing. the idea was to make it easier on me so I wouldn't have to make change later. Well I had a player who would then reach over and take the quarters and replace them with chips ..... Why? because the rule was you could take quarters off the table. So anytime he could get quarters he would rathole them.

Back when I dealt in college the owner used real quarters instead of quarter chips for the rake. A lot of the players were college kids, and ratholed their quarters as well. That way they had money for fast food on the way home at least. I would keep between five and ten dollars every night from my tips in quarters for my emergency money. A crown royal bag full (750ml size) was pretty much $300. Back then the banks didn't charge the 9% or whatever the coin machines charge now.

Do you play open face chinese poker on your phone? If so, which app do you use? I tried Pocket Cowboys on a recommendation from some of the Detroit thread regs and it's decent. Anyone tried that and others and have an opinion?

Regarding (1), see this thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...table-1154636/.

Thanks to the mods for creating this thread. Hopefully this will keep every LC post out of The Breakroom thread.

Here in LA playing out of a rack is very common. We don't really have any problems associated with it in my experience.

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Got a couple of random live questions id like some views on. Hope its okay to post them here as they are not thread worthy.

1. Local new casino only runs a couple of cash tables. Im thinking of having a go at the game but it is heavily reg infested. Anyway the table is 10handed and normally always starts with the same 2 guys in seat 7 & 10. Which seat should I try to sit in if I do ever play in this game?

2. Also wasnt part of this hand but just wondering if this table talk was out of line? Turn puts 2 broadway flushes out and river is a non flush T. Action goes bet/raise. Bettor says "oh ive missed my flush". Raisers says "so have I... and then mutters something like I dunno if my pairs good here tho" bettor tanks and calls w 2 pair. Raiser shows a straight and scoops a 300bb pot.

Does bet/caller have a right to be aggrieved with the pair comment???

Sorry if there's somewhere better to post this

You picked the right place for your post. Thanks!

(1) How do those players play? How long are your legs? How good is your vision? My answer would depend on those factors.

(2) I don't think that any of that table talk is out of line as long as action at the beginning of the street was heads up. If one player is cursing at and/or threatening the other player, that would be a different story, but discussion about the hand itself is fair game once it's heads up.

Thanks for the reply. Villains in scenario 1 are chummy and reggy. Fish beraters. Waiting for fresh meat to sit in the game.

Im 6ft. Brown eyes. Black hair. Have a real man sitting posture. Lol

Vision is pretty good but I hate sitting in seat 1 and 10. Do I give both of them position on me but I have position on fish or do I sit in between them and constantly face getting sqozen??

You sound dreamy.

Seriously though, I'd take a seat between the two of them in the 8 so that I'd have ample leg room and could hear their discussions. But I wouldn't be married to the seat if I realized I wasn't gaining decent info or there was a lunatic somewhere else I wanted relative position or regular position on.

I wouldn't sit in the 1 because you hate it and I wouldn't sit in the 10 because you'd be sitting on that other guy's lap.

This really depends how they play. If you are worried about them being buddy buddy in the game then sit in between them. Otherwise I like to sit to the left of aggressive and/or solid players and to the right of tight or easy to read players. Position is important. With tight players to your left you can buy position with raises PF (with the button 2 seats to your left both filled by tight players, you can raise and they both fold effectively giving you the button post flop). And keep LAG players to your right so you will have position on them most of the time.

Thanks for the replies chaps. I'll give it a go and see what happens. Tbh I've played against them in ALOT of donkaments but the cash game is soo small here its not worth my time but did wonder what the most optimal seat would be in this spot. I think theyll just end up being rocks post flop and flat heavy/splashy pre but deffo gonna try and nab a seat between them one night soon and get a better feel for their cash play. And then deduct a better live seating script!

Thanks for the responses!!

Can't tell you how many times I'd put out a red chip($5) for my ante in a $20/40 stud game, where, the ante is $3, and the guy seated next to me would quickly toss a white chip ($1) right on top of my chip and say: "That's the two of us."

...Uh, noooo, that red chip was mine, and, that little white chip right there?...is yours. Ante up.

Good ole Taj. Actually, I've had this happen in Borgata, too, and at much bigger stakes than that. And it's always the same old degenerate angle shooters that attempt this crap. They're not even that good at it. Sometimes, I deliberately turn my head to one side right after I put out an oversized chip for my ante and hope that the weasel will pull this stunt. It's quite amusing!

Re: playing out of the rack. Must you? Really? I don't like the 'working stack' rule because to some people a working stack is 6 chips. Take the chips out of the rack, make a nice/neat stack in front of you and play poker.

AMEN!!

What do you need the rack for? Put the damn chips on the table like everyone else.

I love our new rule. If you have chips in a rack you get dealt out. No exceptions.

Can I come play in your sandbox?!

I like that rule.

Anyplace with speed chips should be an exception to that rule. e.g. Borgata, CAZ. If I try to stack those chips, I am knocking them down about once a minute because they are too slippery.

This is a off topic but I just saw this couple days ago and thought I'd ask.

Can a player throws $1 or $5 to several players at the table?

Example:

Player 10 threw $1 chip to seat 7 and $5 chip to seat 2 because of he thanked them for just sitting down thus the reason he got the cards he did and won the hand against seat 7, 2, and 4...

So can a player/s chuck a chip or two to other players at the table even if it's just a $1 chip?

You can't pass chips. But if its a one time deal for a negligible amount I will just ignore it unless a player complains

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According to the rules, no, you're not allowed to toss chips back and fourth, ante other players up etc.. But, the reality of it is, players tend to do this a lot, particularly the regs who often play in the same game on a regular basis. Sometimes a player will complain and you'll need to knock it off. Other times no one will say a word. I guess you can say that it's a rule which is rarely implemented. Dealers don't want to make too much of a stink about it because they're trying not to be too nit picky when it (seems) like a non issue, and nor do they want to jeopardize their bottom line. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with it, just throwing out the reality of it.

Fine with me. Small downside for turning over seats (rack up utg and +1 and be replaced by the big blind new player) easily worth the other issues.