Played this hand 2 days ago in Tunica MS. The circuit event was in town and the place was packed. The hand really is not even important, neither is the pot. It was the ruling that is in questions.

Playing 2/5/10 and the pot was only about $120. I Make top pair on the river and villain shows middle pair. This is where it gets good...

Both hands are tabled and it is determined that i win the pot. Villian pick up his cards and throws them in the MUCK. I then pick up my cards because i tabled them close to me and was also going to throw them in the muck. At this point, I happen to drop one of the cards on the floor. Oppps!! Floor is instantly called. The floor comes over and within in 15 seconds he declares that the pot should go to the villain. The floor took no time to understand the hand. He said my hand was dead. I pointed out that the guys hand is in the muck and it went there first. he did not care. How bad of a ruling was this

I know the floors name and can provide it if that is helpful.

1. Don't post the name
2. Sounds like he didn't fully understand the action. Exactly how did the dealer describe it to him?
3. "Let me talk to the Shift Manager"

Sounds like you didn't say and/or he didn't understand that your hand had previously been tabled, and determined to be the winner.

How do you drop a tabled hand onto the floor?

Cards slide pretty well on felt. Just push it forward, let the dealer muck it. Mistakes happen when winners muck.

This.

How did your card manage to hit the floor?

This basically. You have to fight for this pot. According to your description, you were the last person to have cards in your hand, so you should be awarded the pot. If you actually tabled them, then you really should have won the hand (but you make that unclear to me). Also, if neither of your cards touched the muck, you have the right to recover the card on the floor and your hand should still be live.

Here's the problem. I did not get a chance to explain my side of the story. The floor came over, looked at me looked at the other guy and said "push him the pot". He did not even care about the details. That's my main problem, the floor did not care about what I had to say, he just gave the guy the pot. The reason why i wanted to post it here.

And I know that it is weird that I dropped the card, first time it has happened. I picked the cards up and somehow the card went flying.

* The other player did give me half the pot once the floor left. FYI

There has to be more to the story than you have told us.

The floor had to hear something to make a decision, who told the floor what?

Don't pick the cards up. Just let the dealer do it.

I often have to bring the game to a complete halt so I can wait for the "helpful" player to pick up chips or cards and "helpfully" toss them forward.

I mean, yeah, crappy ruling, but we can't change the past. In the future, stop picking up your cards, and you won't risk this ruling.

I can tell you that I have told the full story. The reason why I am posting. The pot was small, its just the principle.

I think you have hit it on the head. Lesson learned.

This is a horrendous ruling. And why exactly was the Floor called over? Who was disputing that you had won?

Always push your cards forward with a tip on top of them for the dealer. And always keep at least one finger on your cards until you see the dealer pushing you the pot after the hand is over. Yours is just one possibility of many as to how things can get procedurally screwed up after a hand is over.

By sticking to a single process for handling your cards after you have won, you give yourself the ability to dispute the outcome with your cards still under your control. In the case of Tournaments I just keep my fingers on my cards until the pot is being shipped.

In the event that you get a dealer who will not ship a pot until you relinquish your cards then it gets interesting. I once threatened to call the Floor over after the dealer repeatedly insisted I was wrong to keep my cards. We both finally agreed to simultaneously push...

The dealer called the floor over the second my card hit the floor. Everyone saw both hands. they were tabled @ showdown. he mucks the loser, i pick up my cards, drop one and the floor is pushing the pot the other way.

The funny thing is, I had just won the hand before and gave him a tip, the dealer that is.

So you drop a card on the floor, somehow, and someone calls the floor (who and why?)

The floor shows up, stands there for 15 seconds and tells the dealer to give the pot to the other player and the dealer just does it? No one tells the floor anything, he just guesses the other player should get the pot? (you have still not described what was said to the floor but your post above indicates the entire story has been told.)

You object but the floor doesn't care, he just makes a horrible decision then walks off?

Okay...

Posting here isn't much help. Everyone agrees it sounds like a very very bad decision but if you were to go to the room manager and explain what happened coolly and calmly, he might find out what the reasoning behind the decision was and maybe make sure similar bad decisions are not made again.

I feel bad for you because the floor clearly didn't understand what happened and you got screwed but one thing that confuses me is what you did. Players table their hand so everyone sees what they have and then they pick up the cards, flip them over, and muck them.

What is the point of this? If you have already tabled your hand, then just push it forward or let the dealer pull it in. It is not speeding up the game if you take the extra time to flip your cards over upside down. It is the dealer's job to make sure all of the cards are facing down before putting them into the shuffler.

I understand mucking your hand if the other player shows a better hand and you don't want to give extra information. But once you show your hand, just leave it on the table. Stop slowing down the game by flipping it down again and mucking it.

In most of the houses in Tunica if any cards are removed from the table either dropped, thrown or just in your hands but not over the table the hand can be ruled dead.