Played 1-2 NL last night at Foxwoods...UTG straddles & dealer announces it, UTG +1 doesn't realize the straddle is on & tries to call for just $2, dealer tells him it's $4 to call...so he tries to raise to $17 instead? Dealer pushes back the raise & tells him he can only call, guy is adamant he can raise & immediately calls the floor over, who confirms the dealer's ruling.

Dude won't let it go & asks every suit he can find over the next hour...supposedly the 2nd person he asked told him he could raise (not within earshot of the table), but the 3rd one said he couldn't.

No way he can raise there, right?

No way Jose.

No way. And its rediculous that he would want to. Seems like it completely turns his KK AA face up.

He wanted to limp to get people to call like so many 1/2 guys try to do. And once he knew a straddle was on he decided a raise was better because for some reason the straddler try's to defend way to often.

Exactly, he even admitted his decision changed once he realized the straddle was on. He otherwise seemed to be intelligent, but definitely a turd. Didn't tip the dealers once during the 4 hours I was there, kept telling everyone how lucky they were to win a hand vs him, how bad he had them dominated, etc.

If he limped in an attempt to limp/raise, I don't know why he wouldn't just limp the $4 and go with it. He's in the same scenario, hoping it gets raised behind him.

IME, people raise straddles alot less in general, but I agree that he should of stuck with his original strategy.

So he had Aces, right?

He claimed that he had jacks, but checked a KQJ flop? Let a guy turn a straight and check/called a river bet. Maybe he wasn't as intelligent as I originally thought lol.

Nope, dealer and floor were correct. He can call or fold (and take his $2 back at FW, but not everywhere), but not raise.
And what made you think he was intelligent?

This reminds me of something I witnessed a while ago. Can't remember if I asked about or not. But it's similar to this. It was a 1/2 game

Seat 8 raises to $7
Seat 1 calls $7 (out of turn)
Seat 9 raises to $17
Seat 1 sees he acted out of turn, sees the re-raise, then re-raises to $55.

Is that allowed or is it call/fold again.

RRoP says this:

individual house rules or floor rulings may vary.

could this be considered an angle shoot? You mistakenly call the blind. dealer confirms that there was a raise to X amount, and then the caller say well i raise?


it just messes up the entire flow of the action, seems to be on purpose?

How did you mess up the action? Nobody acted before you and nobody has yet to act after you.

intelligent in a non-poker sense (I had him pegged as an attorney). Oh yeah, and he put a napkin over his drink when he left the table, I guess so Alan wouldn't slip him a roofie when he wasn't paying attention lol.

This isn't oot action. It's in turn. and his limp was a call of the bb. Dealer informs him the correct amount. He can't now change his action to a raise, he can only make his call the correct size (or fold and abandon the limp to the pot, I guess).