OK I am a solid winner +35k in just over 600 hours this year playing 2/5 in the local casinos....but if I have a wild game and I drop 2+ buyins (dropped 4 buyins this past friday) i want to quit playing all together...and feel sick for a couple days..? (also losing 4 buyins in one session ALWAYS feels way worse than winning 4 buyins in one session...why?)


also I have noticed if the casino is bustling and extremly busy...I have this odd problem of not being patient, and play hands i dont normally play....and push marginal hands (get stacks in when I am either on a big draw...or tpgk or top and bottom pair) <---I NEVER do this when the casiono is less busy as the feel is much more laid back...thus I play the normal winning TAG where folding 85% pre is standard....

any way to overcome either of these?

Nothing you read here is going to help because you have to do the work your Not going to read something and all of a sudden it's cured but I understand where your coming from win I have a great session and win say like 5 buyins I don't feel good or bad. If I lose on the other hand I feel bad because I know I made mistakes and those mistakes mean I have to come back a day or two and make up for them. My issue is time that bothers me when I lose I think your issue is loseing the money I'm saying that because you stated that when you lose 2+ buyins you feel sick and you want to quit. The money means to much to you you have to focus on different results and not money obviously in poker money's going to flucuate. Also let me ask you this if you play say basketball or baseball football or something you like and lose do you feel sick for a couple days I would assume probably not and that's another reason why i think it's purely your focus on the cash that is causing these problems. If you play poker you have to learn to not focus on money or short term results. I would suggest not looking at results daily or weekly but monthly. It's kind of like products that offer a 30 day money back guarantee if you don't like the product. They may get 25000 dollars in sales one week but 8000 dollars is returned the next week because they didn't fully earn that cash because of other factors customers had with the product. Read the mental game of poker hate losing tilt section and go over the hate losing money part.


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Do yourself a favor and go spend a few bucks on the book "Mental Game of Poker" by J Tendler.

I've been working on mental game for a few years now and this book is an amazing foundation for dealing with all sorts of exactly what you are dealing with.

It sounds like you already know when you are making technical mistakes, now it's just time to find the root cause of the problem. The word "Tilt" comes in many shapes and sizes and some of the types will surprise you. I saw 3 very specific types it sounds like you are dealing with often.

I'm not a shill for this author, lol...I have a PG&C thread on this forum that I have been using for 2 years and it heavily deals with mental game!

Good Luck!

awesome guys thank yoU!!

for me money is the problem you are spot on...and i have a 100k$ job so its not as if the poker losses are killing me...n fact my poker roll is 100% separate from my life roll and I only play part time...but when I think of what I could do with the money lost is when I feel sick...I HAVE to overcome it to be permanently successful no doubt!

I am going to buy the book. thanks again for taking the time for well written responses...much appreciated!

Do the little trick of accentuating that whatever chips you are playing with are already won from playing and, very helpful I find, is just set aside mentally or physcially a certain amount of money (whatever is right for your limit, say 10K for 2-5 play) ... and that 10K amount is not even part of your money/savings/net worth .... It's nothing but just ammo for the poker game. That helps both stress over loss and also to play well and aggressively. That money is just ammo that you would never have if not for game and it's purpose is just to be future ammo in game ... not to buy furniture invest or anything else. Very rational perspective I think.

This perspective is particularly easy to pull off during winning streaks. Every time you buy in knowing you've just been stacking buy-ins from past games, it's like the buyin insn't even money in the conventional sense but a buy-in reserve. Something like that. Works well all the way around I think.

2nd part of your question.

Possibly caused by deindividuation as a result of perceptual immersion. Which can give rise to 'disinhibited or aggressive behaviour or both'.
It's one of the forerunners in the competing explanations for crowd violence, eg at football matches, especially by people who are otherwise perfectly well-behaved.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...olence&f=false

You fix it by closing in on yourself, wear shades and headphones and maybe a hoodie. Meditate before and maybe during the play. Maybe take off the headphones and engage in conversation with just one or two people around you.