Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > General Gambling > Psychology

Notices

Psychology Discussions of psychology as applied to poker and other gambling games.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-01-2009, 03:58 PM   #61
centurion
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 185
Re: ultimatum: either wife and upcoming child or poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by GCP View Post
Actually, it's probably the best life decision for a gambling addict.
only if he's a winning player
fairewin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 05:13 PM   #62
newbie
 
KrunkThirty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 44
Re: ultimatum: either wife and upcoming child or poker

I am not married. But I don't think my future wife would appreciate regular deposits on to the interwebz. Most ladies would prob appreciate regular withdrawls. If you can't arrange reg withdrawls without regularly depositing than you just aren't winning and that would just suck with a kid on the way. Maybe the kid can do it.
KrunkThirty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 01:47 PM   #63
old hand
 
breadandbutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1,264
Re: ultimatum: either wife and upcoming child or poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kerls View Post
She was hurt emotionally by my actions so much to the degree that now even the thought of me playing will bring her to tears.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kerls View Post
made it very clear to me that I basically had to choose between her and playing poker, which for me is devastating
Seriously, I don't want to sound rude, but is this normal where you live? Is this what you call love and a healthy equal relationship?

I personally would never even THINK about putting poker above my relationship with my girlfriend (and I don't think you should either, especially because you have kids) but I think your first mistake was to marry such a woman..

And grow some balls to speak up for yourself man, seriously wtf
breadandbutter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 02:34 PM   #64
journeyman
 
Doug Lee's Shrink's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 246
Re: ultimatum: either wife and upcoming child or poker

Sweet lord - I think OP had already made up his mind about the right thing to do with that epic thread title. I mean really. If it's come to the point where you're posting on an online forum about your ambivalence between poker and your family, you knows what needs to happen. But it's good that the majority of replies should validate OP's decision to turn his back on poker.
Doug Lee's Shrink is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 02:43 PM   #65
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Henry17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sweatshop Fantasy Camp
Posts: 25,186
Re: ultimatum: either wife and upcoming child or poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by breadandbutter View Post
And grow some balls to speak up for yourself man, seriously wtf
What do you mean? OP is a losing degenerate. It isn't a matter of speaking up for himself. If he was a winning player things would be different but no one is going to put up with someone destroying the family finances because they are a degenerate.
Henry17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 07:21 PM   #66
old hand
 
breadandbutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1,264
Re: ultimatum: either wife and upcoming child or poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry17 View Post
What do you mean? OP is a losing degenerate. It isn't a matter of speaking up for himself. If he was a winning player things would be different but no one is going to put up with someone destroying the family finances because they are a degenerate.
I mean in relation to his wife obv.. I hope you see why.. If not, then I think the standards for love and an equal relationship are a little different here.. That could be it too.. Not sure..
breadandbutter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 07:54 PM   #67
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Henry17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sweatshop Fantasy Camp
Posts: 25,186
Re: ultimatum: either wife and upcoming child or poker

He wants to play poker so I assume you mean speak up for his right to play because in an equal relationship he should be allowed to. Normally I would agree. But OP is a degenerate losing player. Once one partner in a relationship shows that they can't control their behaviour and continues to behave in a way that is negatively impacting everyone then that is a very different situation. His wife has every right to ban him from playing poker. He has demonstrated that he can't do it.
Henry17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 09:01 PM   #68
old hand
 
breadandbutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1,264
Re: ultimatum: either wife and upcoming child or poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry17 View Post
He wants to play poker so I assume you mean speak up for his right to play because in an equal relationship he should be allowed to. Normally I would agree. But OP is a degenerate losing player. Once one partner in a relationship shows that they can't control their behaviour and continues to behave in a way that is negatively impacting everyone then that is a very different situation. His wife has every right to ban him from playing poker. He has demonstrated that he can't do it.
Lol ok.. I disagree, like totally.. From the way you talk I can see it's like a normal thing for you that wifes "ban" their husband from something.. I don't really understand how you can accept such a position in ANY relationship as a grown man, but ok, I respect your view on it..

I"m not trying to make fun of what seems to be a widely accepted (looking at reactions in this thread) Northern American standard for relationships between men and women.. I'm just happy I live here than.. lol.. We don't make ultimatums on eachother for some poker deposits here and also just treat eachother with some sort of dignity.. At least, that is the standard in a typical relation here..
breadandbutter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 09:02 PM   #69
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Henry17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sweatshop Fantasy Camp
Posts: 25,186
Re: ultimatum: either wife and upcoming child or poker

Did you miss the part where he is a complete **** up? There is a difference between being pussy whipped and being a loser -- OP is a loser.
Henry17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 09:24 PM   #70
old hand
 
breadandbutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1,264
Re: ultimatum: either wife and upcoming child or poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry17 View Post
Did you miss the part where he is a complete **** up? There is a difference between being pussy whipped and being a loser -- OP is a loser.
He's not my kind of guy(even thinking about choosing between poker and wife with kids is pretty damn sickening to me) but how is he such a complete **** and so bad to his wife that she has the right to ban him from what he wants to do (in your opinion)??

Correct me if I'm wrong, but nowhere have I seen him saying he gambled away all of their life-savings.. All we've heard is that she doesn't agree on him playing poker.. That he somehow broke her heart by playing poker because he played above the deposit restrictions she had told him and he lied about it because he enjoys playing poker really much..

Looking at facts I don't really see any real damage that he's done to his wife that makes me say he's a complete **** to her.. (not looking at his completely idiotic thread and title).. It looks more like he's living in some sort of prison or something lol..

I mean, if I was him I would talk with her and say that she can buy stuff for herself as well from time to time, or take her girls out for a night or something, or something in that manor.. Maybe she even already does that.. Because of course it's not right when he spents more money on himself than she does.. That would be unfair.. But I mean, I haven't really seen him say he like gambled all their live-savings or so.. Just going by what OP wrote..
breadandbutter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2009, 05:02 AM   #71
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Number7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Hanging on
Posts: 6,096
Re: ultimatum: either wife and upcoming child or poker

Doesnt matter if you choose poker or wife, you will lose your money either way.
Number7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2009, 05:54 AM   #72
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Henry17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sweatshop Fantasy Camp
Posts: 25,186
Re: ultimatum: either wife and upcoming child or poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by breadandbutter View Post
Correct me if I'm wrong, but nowhere have I seen him saying he gambled away all of their life-savings..
It is pretty clear that OP is pathetic. He might not have made them destitute but it is very clear that he is weak and has caused financial problems in the past.

I've spent a lot of time around people who gamble and people who do hard drugs -- I don't have a problem with either so long as the person isn't weak. The second someone shows degenerate behaviour they are done. It doesn't matter how long we've been friends. You can't trust weak pathetic people. This has nothing to do with male-female power dynamics in relationships. In this topic they are married but I also think OP's friends should all step away and leave him as well. You can't trust degenerates.
Henry17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2009, 08:41 AM   #73
old hand
 
breadandbutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1,264
Re: ultimatum: either wife and upcoming child or poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry17 View Post
It is pretty clear that OP is pathetic. He might not have made them destitute but it is very clear that he is weak and has caused financial problems in the past.

I've spent a lot of time around people who gamble and people who do hard drugs -- I don't have a problem with either so long as the person isn't weak. The second someone shows degenerate behaviour they are done. It doesn't matter how long we've been friends. You can't trust weak pathetic people. This has nothing to do with male-female power dynamics in relationships. In this topic they are married but I also think OP's friends should all step away and leave him as well. You can't trust degenerates.
Have you actually read the OP and looked at the facts of what happened between him and his wife? It almost looks like we both are seeing different OP's..
breadandbutter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2009, 08:42 AM   #74
old hand
 
breadandbutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1,264
Re: ultimatum: either wife and upcoming child or poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Number7 View Post
Doesnt matter if you choose poker or wife, you will lose your money either way.
lol
breadandbutter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2009, 08:57 AM   #75
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Henry17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sweatshop Fantasy Camp
Posts: 25,186
Re: ultimatum: either wife and upcoming child or poker

Of course they are there. Anyone who has been around degenerates would recognize it.

He agreed to limit his playing to a certain amount and then exceeded it. I don't know what led to him agreeing to those limits but he did agree to them and then he broke his word on multiple occasions. As far as I'm concerned that just by itself makes him a complete degenerate.

Also while OP doesn't discuss what led to him agreeing to limits when you think about the possible scenarios that would lead to something like that coming up -- impact on the family finances is the only realistic reason it would ever be discussed. His wife originally had no problem with him playing poker -- she had a problem with him losing too much money. She eventually developed a problem with his poker playing only because he broke her trust. At that point she should have just left but being an idiot she decided to make an ultimatum.

Even in the bargaining phase he is trying to get $50/month which is a pathetic amount of money. Anyone who would bother to play with that amount is a junkie.
Henry17 is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive