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Old 04-22-2012, 05:22 PM   #16
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Re: Tilt - Abolishing Emotions in Poker

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What a great post. I bet you never tilt since this is a very mature rationalization. Thx for that.

I'm wondering if there are different types of tilters? The obvious one are those who make wrong decisions after they get a bb. However, are there any other types? When I 'tilt', I don't make bad decisions, but I sometimes swear, pound the table, to the point of making a hole in the desk! (Mind you, I'm a perfect gentleman at B&Ms, but hidden alone playing online, I'm like a Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde.)

Any insights on this presumable type of tilt and advice guys?
Thanks. Sometimes I get a bit tilted. I leave the table when that happens and try to walk it off. If I can't I go home. A large part of the problem is recognizing the very onset of tilt and taking care of it right then and there. I won't even play my button next hand if I think I've become vulnerable.

Yours is a topic unto itself and I'll offer a few observations:

We first have to define tilt before we can proceed. I define it, loosely, as that loss of self control which causes a good player to play badly. It doesn't matter much to me if a bad player loses due to tilt because they are going to lose eventually no matter what and tilt only hastens the process. Tilt is just one of the bad player's leaks that I really don't know how to quantify. If a player is the type to call raises w/ weak hands how much is tilt really costing him/her? They haven't made the effort to get better and they are going to go broke anyway. Of course the poker room would like it if they last longer and we don't want the poker economy to be destroyed but what can we do? We are going to take their money when it's available.

We also have to answer the question of why players come to play. The people posting on this forum will answer 'to win money' but we are in the minority. More players come to have fun, to gamble, to pass the time. Others come for destructive reasons. They sometimes WANT to lose bec if affirms their sense of self-worthlessness. Others come in order to boss other players around, to brag, to demean, to vent, to curse their fate, to make themselves the center of attention, etc, etc. These people come pre-tilted. Not only do we not care about that we hope for it.

Tommy Angelo emphasizes deep breathing for it's calmative affect. Tendler points out that a loss of emotional control in essence robs the brain of it's ability to make good decisions and lays out exercises to avoid the descent into loss of self control. 'Zen and the Art of Poker'.........well, take a guess.

I've found a center and most of the time it works. Calm, calm. This is poker, it can be a destroyer, duck that part.
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Old 04-22-2012, 05:49 PM   #17
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Re: Tilt - Abolishing Emotions in Poker

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This is poker, it can be a destroyer, duck that part.
Thx again. Yes, it can be a destroyer...a destroyer of tables in my case lol.
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Old 04-22-2012, 06:50 PM   #18
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Thx again. Yes, it can be a destroyer...a destroyer of tables in my case lol.
If it's any comfort a friend of mine is a solid pro that somehow found $5 keyboards bec he broke so many. In the B&M setting he's quiet, concentrated and unflappable. I lol'd when he told me.
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:12 PM   #19
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Re: Tilt - Abolishing Emotions in Poker

dont ask yourself how you can avoid tilt, ask yourself how you can put the others on tilt.

play heavily overrolled and always use advertising (playing bad on purpose) at the beginning of your session.
if you suck out some times, you most likely have already set someone else on tilt and are up a few $.
if you lose, you still have a great image as an idiot and can make use of it accordingly
to win much more than you invested in advertising.
use reverse tells and the "chips-in-your-hand-near-the-line"-angle-shot,
and make sure to talk during most of the hands that are played,
not just the ones that you play only, to reassert dominance whenever needed.

this is poker, everything else is just math.

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