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03-14-2010 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CxF
I very strongly believe that weed does not make a person unproductive, stupid, lazy, or anything like that. Some of the smartest and most successful/hardworking people I have met were huge stoners.
Me too, but all of the biggest stoners I know, myself included, the productive and the unproductive both, say that a week off from smoking makes them feel more alert, more energetic and more clear-headed. The effects creep up on you, but daily smoking blunts your mind somewhat.

(that's blunts as in "makes not sharp", not "big ol' spliff")
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03-15-2010 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by freakBYnature
Any substance you put in you body affects your mental state as well. I've used almost everything BUT heroin, cocain and crack. And I got to say, every single drug made me a sloppy pokerplayer. Changing one substance for the other just makes me believe that your possible addiction is evolving into something it may be hard getting out of the day you really want to.

I'm a recovering addict myself, and is not just putting these words out there because I "think it is so", I know how a drugaddiction works, and I truly feel sorry for those out there suffering of the same sickness, without judging you OP nor telling you that you are an addict. All I am saying, is that these thoughts you are having about exchanging one drug for the other, truly are dangerous.

Peace
Freak
good advice here..
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03-15-2010 , 12:27 PM
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I don't know, but my heart is racing quite fast today. I haven't taken any ritalin or any of the other pills. And I just played a bit poker but I can't think at all. This really sucks cause it makes me think I should take ritalin, but all these pills are ****ing me up and my doctor is on vacation so I can't ask him what to do.
I am assuming you are from the US? No disrespect but in the UK (and other other parts of the world) we believe that medication for mental health issues is far over prescribed in the US. It's down to culture and also because you don't have a pubilc health care system - but it may be worth learning more about this and whether or not it is directly affecting you.

I have had my own difficulties in this area and believe very strongly that (as others have suggested) exersice is the best method by far to improve your mental health (provided of course we are talking about low level issues such as depression, anxiety etc rather than full blown mulitple personality)

GL OP
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03-15-2010 , 03:00 PM
I'm from the netherlands @ angribob, however the meds (except the ritalin) were prescribed to me while I was on vacation in iran. My dutch doctor said I should cut back on a couple meds since 5 different drugs were too much.

Update on my efforts:
I've decided to start a whole new diet strictly to improve mental health which include:
Omega 3 rich fish, fruits, vegetables, beans, chicken etc + lots of water.
Stopped drinking alcohol completely (atleast for a month), not sure about weed yet.. not taking any yet but there's no restrictions on it.
Cut back 50% on haloperidol and buspiron. 66% on luvox.


If anyone has any other ideas to improve my diet please feel free to mention it.
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03-15-2010 , 06:01 PM
i like your update on your efforts... but you need to run around like a donkey. basically, just sweat from something strenuous, that will make your body produce some good **** (endorphins). be dependent on endorphins and you'll be 100% better off than any other drugs. then again, you might need to keep on taking meds for your schizophrenia. i wouldn't want you to run like mad to your parents or friends house in search of endorphins and end up murdering them...
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03-15-2010 , 09:18 PM
Personally, I've never felt any kind of hangover from weed. The only thing I do get is a feeling of sickness if I've been high somewhere and ended up eating inhuman quantities of unhealthy foods.

I don't have a vast amount of stats, but I have reviewed sessions and found that I don't appear to play worse under the influence of weed. In fact, some of my best sessions (in terms of analysis of my play as well as results) are recorded while I've been high.

What would concern me about your posts is that you appear to be thinking about it in a medicative way. I have a history of depression and insomnia, and actually find weed (in limited quantities) does me a lot of good on this front. However, it's very easy to overdo it, and the attitude that you're using it because it improves you, rather than it being purely recreational, can lead you down a bad path.

I wouldn't think about weed in terms of its benefit other than how relaxing in an enjoyable way is a good thing. Go easy on the green stuff.
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03-16-2010 , 11:27 PM
Grunch: It's way, way safer to smoke weed. Drinking is far more addictive and can kill you. Weed isn't "good for you" but at least it won't ruin your life (just don't get caught).

I dunno about poker though I make it a rule to always play sober.
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03-17-2010 , 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Teferi
Grunch: It's way, way safer to smoke weed. Drinking is far more addictive and can kill you. Weed isn't "good for you" but at least it won't ruin your life (just don't get caught).

I dunno about poker though I make it a rule to always play sober.
Haha good thing that I live in the netherlands where it's legal.
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03-18-2010 , 06:32 AM
I like smoking specially when playing poker, my advice would be smoke when you win it gives you a great feeling and you start playing better and more concentraeated. I always do it when i am in a big tourney and have many chips , good luck and stop drinking for you health !

weed doesen´t harm anyone- It´s nature medication
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03-18-2010 , 07:22 AM
I've been smoking since 1975 and can tell you in all honesty it's never gotten me anything except stoned. The downside(s) you mention don't really make the time and money spent a worthwhile investment of either.

Yeah, I know it's relaxing. I'm not gonna tell you I don't love being on that mellow cloud after a few good hits of quality bud, but there are ways of experiencing states approaching or even replicating nirvana with no costs attached, either financial or health-wise. This is going to sound strange and off-the-wall (maybe), but people who practice daily meditation (zen buddhists, for example) report that after enough disciplined devotion to it the euphoric feeling becomes a permanent state.

I'm not trying to preach Buddhism, meditation, or any other specific buzz-substitute--and I certainly do not endorse ideas affiliated with any religion of any kind, but I use the Zen example to highlight that there are ways of approaching your life that give you what you're after and ADD to your overall well-being and I'm sure that pot is not really one of them. Again, I LOVE herb--don't get me wrong--I just can think of no upside beside the actually buzz itself, and the (admittedly marginal) health risks seem to me to make the whole experience negative EV, long term.

You're REALLY right to bail on alcohol for the reasons stated above, in my opinion, not to mention that alcohol comes with a geniune addiction risk factor nowhere-nearly approached by ganga. You probably already know, but the liver and kidney effects of alcohol are just the ones we talk about publicly, but when it comes to drink, an unspoken killer is what it does to your physical appearance. Find me a 20+ year-old woman who is a long-term drinker and I'll show you someone whose nose is red, whose skin is bad, and whose face has already begun to prematurely slide overall.

Yeah, this is a long rant, I know, but I wanted to take at least some part of the time I think the subject deserves to lay out why I don't think three and a half decades of getting stoned STILL haven't provided me a single reason to recommend the experience over other, healthier options a young man or woman can pursue for free. You want to know what I recommend?! Do sex instead--there's feelings of euphoria commonly known to come attached to the experience and you drop pounds and inches in the act!!!

Thanks for listening.
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03-18-2010 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Former Spank E
I've been smoking since 1975 and can tell you in all honesty it's never gotten me anything except stoned. The downside(s) you mention don't really make the time and money spent a worthwhile investment of either.

Yeah, I know it's relaxing. I'm not gonna tell you I don't love being on that mellow cloud after a few good hits of quality bud, but there are ways of experiencing states approaching or even replicating nirvana with no costs attached, either financial or health-wise. This is going to sound strange and off-the-wall (maybe), but people who practice daily meditation (zen buddhists, for example) report that after enough disciplined devotion to it the euphoric feeling becomes a permanent state.

I'm not trying to preach Buddhism, meditation, or any other specific buzz-substitute--and I certainly do not endorse ideas affiliated with any religion of any kind, but I use the Zen example to highlight that there are ways of approaching your life that give you what you're after and ADD to your overall well-being and I'm sure that pot is not really one of them. Again, I LOVE herb--don't get me wrong--I just can think of no upside beside the actually buzz itself, and the (admittedly marginal) health risks seem to me to make the whole experience negative EV, long term.

You're REALLY right to bail on alcohol for the reasons stated above, in my opinion, not to mention that alcohol comes with a geniune addiction risk factor nowhere-nearly approached by ganga. You probably already know, but the liver and kidney effects of alcohol are just the ones we talk about publicly, but when it comes to drink, an unspoken killer is what it does to your physical appearance. Find me a 20+ year-old woman who is a long-term drinker and I'll show you someone whose nose is red, whose skin is bad, and whose face has already begun to prematurely slide overall.

Yeah, this is a long rant, I know, but I wanted to take at least some part of the time I think the subject deserves to lay out why I don't think three and a half decades of getting stoned STILL haven't provided me a single reason to recommend the experience over other, healthier options a young man or woman can pursue for free. You want to know what I recommend?! Do sex instead--there's feelings of euphoria commonly known to come attached to the experience and you drop pounds and inches in the act!!!

Thanks for listening.
Great post.

My order of highs:
1) gym
2) meditation
3) sex
4) herb
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03-18-2010 , 02:00 PM
I'm starting to like what I'm hearing about meditation, however I know absolutely nothing about it.

Does anyone know a book or a site that teaches me how to do it correctly? I wanna give it a shot.
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03-18-2010 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MindOnMind
I'm starting to like what I'm hearing about meditation, however I know absolutely nothing about it.

Does anyone know a book or a site that teaches me how to do it correctly? I wanna give it a shot.
Yeah. Here's a link and my reason for recommending it:

http://global.sotozen-net.or.jp/eng/..._do_zazen.html

Like I said in my original reply to your post, I don't endorse any religions of any kind, not having been raised to believe in God. That said, the Soto Zen Buddhists are a school (going back to, I believe, the mid-1740s, roughly) teaching that meditation ALONE is all it's all about. Not belief in Buddha's omnipotence, omniscience, or omni-anything. The only dogma the Soto Zen's push is that practicing meditation is the key to self-knowledge, and with that, contentment--thereby becoming the Buddha yourself. Other Buddhist traditions place varying degrees of emphasis on the first Buddha's writings--known as the Sutras--but the Soto's have a "take 'em or leave 'em attitude" toward those and maintain that, like getting to Broadway or becoming a poker world champion, it's all about practice, practice, practice (or, "zazen," as it translates from the Japanese).

That's it. The sight above isn't necessarily better or worse for learning how to "sit zazen" properly. It's just one I happen to know of. Good luck.

Peace.
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03-19-2010 , 12:52 AM
Man! You need to stop being a loser and quit everything. Alcohol and definitely poker!!! You lost $15,000 are you mental or what?...your never going to win it back..because 1. you suck at poker and 2. gamblers rarely win in the end.

Weed isnt too bad but man just get your **** together your addicted to all the bad ****

Good luck.
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03-19-2010 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ernster86
Man! You need to stop being a loser and quit everything. Alcohol and definitely poker!!! You lost $15,000 are you mental or what?...your never going to win it back..because 1. you suck at poker and 2. gamblers rarely win in the end.

Weed isnt too bad but man just get your **** together your addicted to all the bad ****

Good luck.
Your advising him to "stop being a loser," "quit poker," "you (sic) never going to win it back," "you suck at poker" and "gamblers rarely win in the end" makes your presence here somewhat dubious. Is there somewhere else you could go?
Thanks.
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03-19-2010 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tom_dwonk
depends, weed fries my brain even more IMO quit everything lol
weed enlightens you. The actual process of smoking fries your brain... but nevertheless, its better than smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol... or taking pills for depression.

my order of highs

sex
herb
pulling off a big bluff in poker
gym


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Originally Posted by CPT OBVIOUS
Man what is your diet like?

My experience, ive just managed to quit weed after over a decade.Ive always done things in moderation but weed took over me.
I know you proberly dont want to hear this stupid list but im doing it for me as well.

Negatives for dope = You smell of weed, costs a bit once you get into it,always want it when you dont have it,always say your gona quit when you do have it,Can make you very unmotivated,spend more on unhealthy food,may become paranoid.

Postitives = Get a very good sleep(sometimes to much),helps you relax,makes you laugh,enjoy food more ,Enjoy music more,Helps you forget & block emotions,helps pass time.

Im finally getting my life back together. I feel like ive been frozen in time for over 10 years, it was fun but i accomplished not alot at all.
weed actually motivated me more.

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Originally Posted by MindOnMind
So far good posts, thanks a lot.

PS: I'm not going to smoke weed and play poker while high. Probably just to fall asleep and smoke during the rare days where I decide I'm not going to play. But main thing that concerns me is if it will affect my mental shape the following day.
heh, i tried it and I have some of my best days playing while high. my thoughts are very clear. I should do it more often but I ran out of weed a while ago.


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Originally Posted by Former Spank E
Yeah. Here's a link and my reason for recommending it:

http://global.sotozen-net.or.jp/eng/..._do_zazen.html

Like I said in my original reply to your post, I don't endorse any religions of any kind, not having been raised to believe in God. That said, the Soto Zen Buddhists are a school (going back to, I believe, the mid-1740s, roughly) teaching that meditation ALONE is all it's all about. Not belief in Buddha's omnipotence, omniscience, or omni-anything. The only dogma the Soto Zen's push is that practicing meditation is the key to self-knowledge, and with that, contentment--thereby becoming the Buddha yourself. Other Buddhist traditions place varying degrees of emphasis on the first Buddha's writings--known as the Sutras--but the Soto's have a "take 'em or leave 'em attitude" toward those and maintain that, like getting to Broadway or becoming a poker world champion, it's all about practice, practice, practice (or, "zazen," as it translates from the Japanese).

That's it. The sight above isn't necessarily better or worse for learning how to "sit zazen" properly. It's just one I happen to know of. Good luck.

Peace.
dude, really all you have to do is follow the 10 commandments and be kind to others. Thats all jesus wanted. christians/catholics/etc believe that going to "church" every sunday is for god. No, in fact, god wants you to read the bible with your friends and family in small groups.. or even in a big church where everyday, someone new speaks and gives there thoughts about god.

this day and age, Church is not what god wanted it to be. The people have it ass backwards.

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Originally Posted by Ernster86
Man! You need to stop being a loser and quit everything. Alcohol and definitely poker!!! You lost $15,000 are you mental or what?...your never going to win it back..because 1. you suck at poker and 2. gamblers rarely win in the end.

Weed isnt too bad but man just get your **** together your addicted to all the bad ****

Good luck.
instead of telling him to stop being a loser, why do you enlighten and help him so that he won't be a loser?

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Originally Posted by Mr.Happy
Me too, but all of the biggest stoners I know, myself included, the productive and the unproductive both, say that a week off from smoking makes them feel more alert, more energetic and more clear-headed. The effects creep up on you, but daily smoking blunts your mind somewhat.

(that's blunts as in "makes not sharp", not "big ol' spliff")
ah, and this is why I vape my erb.

Last edited by brokekid; 03-19-2010 at 06:22 AM.
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02-05-2015 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MindOnMind
Yeah but main thing is, for me... sleeping doesn't end my exhaustion. The 24-hour-routine doesn't work. The exhaustion from 2 days ago is still affecting me today. Extreme mental activity takes 1-2 weeks for me to get rid of. And I'm talking about mental activity. This is really affecting my poker because I don't want to take such a long time off. If I did that, I'd only be able to play 4-5 days a month.

Is it common for mental exhaustion to last so long?

Try drinking 4-5 cups of green tea you dont have to take that advise but ever since ive done that it has changed my energy levels dramatically
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02-06-2015 , 12:10 AM
i'm gonna blabber here so read as you will,
the first thing you need to do (as you are willing to exercise) is start doing slow-paced short jogs to gain some physical stamina. eventually go longer and faster. jogging without over exerting will get blood to all the muscles and sweat out some bad stuff. within a few days of that you will feel better physically and mentally. after a week of that you will have the built up stamina you lack. I do this with weights aswell and have smoked weed for the last 10 years. that being said, I have learned that weed is better in moderation. I used to rip bongs when younger but it does affect anyone who has a high weed tolerance, that's just what large weed intake does to people. I always do what needs to be done before smoking as i like to actually be able to relax when I do smoke. 1g will last me a 7-14 days, where as years ago 1 g would last 1-2 days. but exercise is key, self motivation aswell is huge too. once you get into a workout routine you should find that you will have less desire to smoke, as you feel better, but not less desire to smoke at certain points in your day/night. people like to judge 'lumosity' but its compliments physical workouts nicely with brain exercise. i'm way sharper when doing lumosity 4-7 times a week. this all pertains to lifestyle and lifestyle changes to better yourself, not just for poker. its like a sports team that doesn't 'buy in' to the coaches system. if you buy in to this lifestyle system it will pay dividends in more ways than you can think. if your committed you should also read "positive poker" by Dr. Patricia Cardner with Jonathan Little. live better, believe better, do better and success and happiness will just be a by-product of your lifestyle. I better stop now lol
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02-06-2015 , 08:01 AM
Just note that this thread is almost 5 years old, and OP hasn't been in this site in almost 3 years. So go ahead and discuss your thoughts, but giving OP advice is a waste of time.
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02-06-2015 , 11:41 AM
Weed is really cool because you feel really good if you treat it like a "once every second month" kinda thing, but otherwise it will do as any other drug (sugar, caffeine, nicotine, coke etc) and just make you unable to function or feeling secure without it. It's also easy to overdose in the sense that you just start rewarding yourself with weed anytime anything goes wrong and it ends up with you sitting on your ass all day, dreaming about some big score and just smoking a lot of weed.

If you feel you miss something in your life I would look into your diet. High sugar intake? How's your sleep? If you live in a dark country, try read up on d-vitamin. Also, read up some on aspirin.
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02-06-2015 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tultfill
If you live in a dark country, try read up on d-vitamin. Also, read up some on aspirin.
To comment on just this part, I know that there is correlation between vitamin D levels and a variety of things, such as low mood. But I'm not sure that there is evidence supporting supplemental vitamin D in fixing that. I don't think the cause/effect goes in that direction.

Also, what is it that aspirin is supposed to do in this situation? It's not something I've looked into or heard much about (as it relates to this thread, that is).
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02-09-2015 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by superjeff24
its difficult to smoke weed and workout everyday. it can be done. i make my myself workout before having a puff. if you do it the other way around, it wont work. and about the working out, once you get into a routine of lifting alot you'll feel energetic. but at first you get really sore for a few days. push through it
I almost always take a puff or 2 before working out. Weed + the right music really gets me in the zone.
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