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Old 05-02-2017, 01:07 AM   #1
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Poker Mindset Book Reviews

Hi Everyone:

In the May issue of our Two Plus Two Online Poker Strategy Magazine I have written two reviews of poker mindset books:

http://www.twoplustwo.com/magazine/i...ok-reviews.php

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Old 05-02-2017, 03:09 AM   #2
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This alarm sets off the flight or fight response, which is helpful when you are in real danger.

It seems to me that if this was true, we would see plenty of fights in the poker room and this almost never happens. In addition, we would occasionally see someone grab their chips and run out of the poker room, and I’ve never seen that.
I will just point out that the flight and fight syndrome is a way that the body reacts.

It is usually not socially acceptable to punch the other player in the face, instead we release this energy by some clever remarrk to hint at the lack of intelligence of the other player and so on. Or just leaving the game, if we decide to flee instead. I am sure you have seen someone get up and leave a game after taking a bad beat.
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Old 05-02-2017, 03:17 AM   #3
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I will just point out that the flight and fight syndrome is a way that the body reacts.

It is usually not socially acceptable to punch the other player in the face, instead we release this energy by some clever remarrk to hint at the lack of intelligence of the other player and so on. Or just leaving the game, if we decide to flee instead. I am sure you have seen someone get up and leave a game after taking a bad beat.
Hi Aces123123:

Perhaps in most cases you're correct, but fights are extremely rare in poker rooms, and when I've seen one it's usually a drunk player having an issue with a floor person or manager. So it seems to me that if flight or fight was correct, my observations over many years would be different.

You need to understand that, in my opinion, tilt is something that the poker mental coaches need to attract clients. But they also need an explanation and this is what they've latched on to.

Also, blackjack professional virtually never tilt. Why is that? and what happened to flight or fight? Surely they're under many of the same pressures that poker players are.

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Hi Aces123123:

Perhaps in most cases you're correct, but fights are extremely rare in poker rooms, and when I've seen one it's usually a drunk player having an issue with a floor person or manager. So it seems to me that if flight or fight was correct, my observations over many years would be different.

You need to understand that, in my opinion, tilt is something that the poker mental coaches need to attract clients. But they also need an explanation and this is what they've latched on to.

Also, blackjack professional virtually never tilt. Why is that? and what happened to flight or fight? Surely they're under many of the same pressures that poker players are.

Best wishes,
Mason
Flight or Fight is better thought of as Flight, Fight, or Freeze. If you know fighting is a bad idea or just can't and you can't flee then the brain freezes. And by Freeze it means it changes the way your brain functions. In simple terms it affects your ability to make complex decisions.

So to say that because you haven't seen a lot of fights in poker rooms that the flight, fight, or freeze (or stress response) system is not activated is frankly just wrong.

Now I believe you probably don't get super stressed playing poker but the fact is I would say the majority of people do.

And I know the point has been made that if a player makes a mistake playing poker then they need better strategy coaching but this is simplistic.

There are times when a player knows the right play but can't access that part of the mind (prefrontal cortex) because they are too stressed. What some people believe is a strategy mistake is actually a mistake made(caused) by stress or the freeze response.

And with respect to blackjack, it just doesn't have as many complex decisions, in game at least, so one's play is much less affected by stress.

Now don't get me wrong i think most people would gain more from strategy coaching then "mental coaching" but to say that is not helpful in my opinion is just misinformed.

I highly recommend this book. It explains how trauma and stress affects the way the brain/mind thinks/works.
The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma
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