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Old 04-08-2012, 08:34 AM   #61
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join a community of people that help others.. it may be extremely hard to get started but once you see other people who have been in worse turmoil then yourself it may help you to enjoy life more or at least find happiness in knowing your helping to improve there life... happy easter
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Old 04-08-2012, 01:14 PM   #62
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can relate too your problems, after Reading your thread certain traits I can totally relate too others not so much (but us being different may have something too do with that)

I basically degened off 20k which 16 I had won these 4 months I have less than a 3k life roll left and think the world has ended!!

It hasn't though, I just am depressed/life tilted about playing cash games and degening off everything.

I was at a councellor but was at my all time low, since I stopped seeing her I have spiralled worse and worse, even though I found it hard it was good for someone too console too that had no emotional attatchment.

Really try get help, I need it too and I am going too go too a g.a meeting in the near future too try too see how hopeless some gamblers become.

I can totally relate too money seeming all that matters cause it seems it with me when in actual fact money means nothing without being happy even when I had a 10k roll I wasn't exactly happy or anything (I know this may be a tiny percent too some people but too me it was my means too success)

since losing it I am even worse, but that's more too do with the importance of what my roll represented too me, not the actual money that meant anything.

The last post is very solid advice and that is why I am you going too do it pronto...

If you ever wanna pm us just too chat about pointless things/poker/gambling/life issues feel free because I am always here too listen and help, I am very bad at doing what I need too do but pretty good at being there too give advice or even realte too life problems (however simple or meaningless they might seem)..

All the answers in this thread are so true, diet, social life, gym, a purpose in life are what helps this grind of a life, it's the latter that directly effects the first three though..

It's hard life, it's never going too be simple but we can succeed too happiness my friend if we direct our abilities too our goals and set proper routines and live a happier lifestyle, all said easy, getting up and doing it is another thing :/

Hope your feeling ok today, as said drop me a pm if you ever wanna chat
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:37 PM   #63
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can relate too your problems, after Reading your thread certain traits I can totally relate too others not so much (but us being different may have something too do with that)

I basically degened off 20k which 16 I had won these 4 months I have less than a 3k life roll left and think the world has ended!!

It hasn't though, I just am depressed/life tilted about playing cash games and degening off everything.

I was at a councellor but was at my all time low, since I stopped seeing her I have spiralled worse and worse, even though I found it hard it was good for someone too console too that had no emotional attatchment.

Really try get help, I need it too and I am going too go too a g.a meeting in the near future too try too see how hopeless some gamblers become.

I can totally relate too money seeming all that matters cause it seems it with me when in actual fact money means nothing without being happy even when I had a 10k roll I wasn't exactly happy or anything (I know this may be a tiny percent too some people but too me it was my means too success)

since losing it I am even worse, but that's more too do with the importance of what my roll represented too me, not the actual money that meant anything.

The last post is very solid advice and that is why I am you going too do it pronto...

If you ever wanna pm us just too chat about pointless things/poker/gambling/life issues feel free because I am always here too listen and help, I am very bad at doing what I need too do but pretty good at being there too give advice or even realte too life problems (however simple or meaningless they might seem)..

All the answers in this thread are so true, diet, social life, gym, a purpose in life are what helps this grind of a life, it's the latter that directly effects the first three though..

It's hard life, it's never going too be simple but we can succeed too happiness my friend if we direct our abilities too our goals and set proper routines and live a happier lifestyle, all said easy, getting up and doing it is another thing :/

Hope your feeling ok today, as said drop me a pm if you ever wanna chat
Bad idea. Two people with no purpose meeting to have a mutual admiration society about how bad life is. Misery loves company is a bad basis for a friendship.
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:52 PM   #64
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Life grinds away at you, until your grounded down to nothing, then nothing matters.
I think you have a screw loose. I think there are certain people like you for whom life really doesn't matter, and will never matter. I think it is a form of arrested development. A section of your brain stopped maturing and left you unable to develop a rational view of life. Unless you develop some motivation to change this stunted growth problem, you may just have to resign yourself to a life of unhappiness until time finally eliminates your problems.

I will say that at some point you should stop whining about it to the world at large. Poker players hate bad beat stories. But people in general are repelled by people for whom life is a bad beat. You must be a total drag to be around right now.

Perhaps if you just shut up for a year, something positive will happen to you by dumb luck. Something that will change your outlook by accident. If you keep up your whining, you will live a miserable life and die in obscurity and people will be more than happy to forget you ever were alive. Because you really never were.

Or, pretend life has purpose and act that way without the passion. Maybe over a long period of time, by repetition, a better outlook will become a habit rather than the despair you currently display.

Maybe help some people and enjoy the feedback loop - without giving a s-h-i-t. Maybe the corrupted section of your brain will have a self-correcting epiphany. Even if it doesn't, you will improve the world by not inflicting your abject negativity upon it for a beneficial segment of time.

Don't care. Don't give a crap. Just live better and more positively as an intellectual exercise. What do you have to lose? Obviously not much at the moment.
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:15 AM   #65
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Trust me money doesn't make you happy
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:14 AM   #66
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I think you have a screw loose. I think there are certain people like you for whom life really doesn't matter, and will never matter. I think it is a form of arrested development. A section of your brain stopped maturing and left you unable to develop a rational view of life. Unless you develop some motivation to change this stunted growth problem, you may just have to resign yourself to a life of unhappiness until time finally eliminates your problems.
Not sure how you came up with that diagnosis, are you a doctor? Last time I checked I did have a fully developed brain.

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I will say that at some point you should stop whining about it to the world at large. Poker players hate bad beat stories. But people in general are repelled by people for whom life is a bad beat. You must be a total drag to be around right now.
People are a bad beat, thats the point, people are a drag to be around. I hate being around bad beat stories myself its just that everyone where I turn, its a ****ing bad beat buddy. Everybody else is whining at me, everyone else requires me to do something.

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Perhaps if you just shut up for a year, something positive will happen to you by dumb luck.Something that will change your outlook by accident.
WTF are you talking about?

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If you keep up your whining, you will live a miserable life and die in obscurity and people will be more than happy to forget you ever were alive. Because you really never were.
So what if people dont remember me when I'm dead,....I'm dead who gives a ****. What you think people are going to remember you in 100 years? Get real!

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Or, pretend life has purpose and act that way without the passion. Maybe over a long period of time, by repetition, a better outlook will become a habit rather than the despair you currently display.
What are you four? Religion, God and Theology is down the page if you want to "Pretend" I call it lying but maybe you like to lie which doenst say much about you. Maybe you think I wake up each day and put on a fake mask thats always smiling regardless on whats happening around me. You must be so fake inside.

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Maybe help some people and enjoy the feedback loop - without giving a s-h-i-t. Maybe the corrupted section of your brain will have a self-correcting epiphany. Even if it doesn't, you will improve the world by not inflicting your abject negativity upon it for a beneficial segment of time.
Why would I want to improve the world, I need a reason to do so, oh you mean be good for the sake of being good, sorry buddy thats just another term for being a sucker. Are you a sucker?

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Don't care. Don't give a crap. Just live better and more positively as an intellectual exercise. What do you have to lose? Obviously not much at the moment.
You mean be fake? All your really saying is pretend to be happy.
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:16 AM   #67
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Trust me money doesn't make you happy
Thanks man, hey care to send me some then? trust me it doesnt make you happy, you dont want it, you got other things to make you happy.
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:33 AM   #68
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From reading your replies it seems you really just want free money, you come across very lazy. Take this quote, "If you want something in life you got too want it as much as you want too take the next breath of air". Give it a go hold your breath for aslong as you can and just watch your body fight for that next gasp of air. Go get a labour job, save up, study poker 2 hours every day, commit yourself an I'm sure in a years time you will be able too win at a good rate and have a good bankroll to start at a decent level but if your not going too commit to that than forget your dream of becoming rich and just keep buying lotto hope for the best
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:00 PM   #69
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From reading your replies it seems you really just want free money, you come across very lazy. Take this quote, "If you want something in life you got too want it as much as you want too take the next breath of air". Give it a go hold your breath for aslong as you can and just watch your body fight for that next gasp of air. Go get a labour job, save up, study poker 2 hours every day, commit yourself an I'm sure in a years time you will be able too win at a good rate and have a good bankroll to start at a decent level but if your not going too commit to that than forget your dream of becoming rich and just keep buying lotto hope for the best
Thats exactly what I want free money. People like sandsmarc all talk a good game about being good, caring for other people, helping people out etc...I am here to accept that generous nature all you guys talk about.

Dont worry I sure you guys can put a spin on like, "Why would we help out a loser like you".............oh thought you guys would just be good for the sake of being good....oh well nevermind then.

I got another one, "Why would help you out when we can help others who are in dire situations"...........cant you do both, does your goodness just stop because you no longer want to be good, for the sake of being good.

Oh..I get........ its like sandsmarc says, you just pretend to be good, it helps people like that get through the day.
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Old 04-09-2012, 04:29 PM   #70
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You got it all wrong muck ... negativity brings out negative thoughts and then you put your own spin on things to make your mind "correct" in thinking what you want. There's people out there that are good. everyone has bad days.. everyone has a temper to some extent.. just because one person has a bad minute and says the wrong thing doesn't make them fake... we are all human and no one is perfect.. having the mind set your somehow smarter and above people really just means you have some issues you need to work out. I feel bad for you personally.. I've been in that state of mind and it just gets more damaging as the days go on.. you become harder and harder... there is a war on everyone's mind and it wants you to take the wrong route... do you want to give in to the pleasures of bad nature or do you want to work to be above it and truly stand tall in this world.. Life isn't easy and to truly achieve greatness it's going to be a struggle and a challenge.. many good days but also many bad days.. You have to keep your eye on the prize.. and sometimes people spend 3/4's of their life to really find what the prize is.. I know I spent a good portion looking for the prize only to realize that it wasn't really the prize at all... I hope you get there
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Old 04-09-2012, 09:05 PM   #71
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To be honest mate you just sound like a piece of ****, your never going to be rich with your thinking and honestly you don't deserve too be, you low life scum, your best bet being 6ft underground
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Thats exactly what I want free money. People like sandsmarc all talk a good game about being good, caring for other people, helping people out etc...I am here to accept that generous nature all you guys talk about.

Dont worry I sure you guys can put a spin on like, "Why would we help out a loser like you".............oh thought you guys would just be good for the sake of being good....oh well nevermind then.

I got another one, "Why would help you out when we can help others who are in dire situations"...........cant you do both, does your goodness just stop because you no longer want to be good, for the sake of being good.

Oh..I get........ its like sandsmarc says, you just pretend to be good, it helps people like that get through the day.
Why are you afraid of other's expectations? My friends, my family, and my clients all expect certain things of me. I thrive on exceeding those expectations whenever possible. Why? It's fun to be good. Why be a miserable lazy incompetent bitch? It doesn't pay. Being good is something I do because I enjoy it. It's a selfish pleasure. I do not believe in altruism or selflessness or any of that other nonsense. Being good pays. It pays money. It pays respect. It pays looking in the mirror and giving the reflection a thumbs up. The only time I get depressed is when I fail to live up to expectations, either internal or external. And I quickly make an adjustment, because depression is not something I will tolerate for very long. Being depressed is a choice, not an illness.

You want free money? Why? If you did not earn it, what value does it have? None. Money is a condensation of time. That's why it's so much fun. Time is the only unavoidable limit, but money gives you the power to leverage the time of others. So, in effect, it is like getting extra minutes of life when you earn a nice sum of money. But earning it is the only way for it to pay an emotional dividend. Just finding it or falling into it or even stealing it will never do you any good. It has to be earned to be fun.

So if you want money so bad, stop being afraid of expectations. Exceeding expectations is how you make good money. Embrace the high expectations of others, and blow their doors off with extra performance and effort. The money will follow, the time it represents will follow, and thumbs up to the man in the mirror will follow.
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To be honest mate you just sound like a piece of ****, your never going to be rich with your thinking and honestly you don't deserve too be, you low life scum, your best bet being 6ft underground
I agree Jaseee.
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Why are you afraid of other's expectations? .
Why do people have expections about me in the first place?

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My friends, my family, and my clients all expect certain things of me. I thrive on exceeding those expectations whenever possible. Why? It's fun to be good.
Just because you say its fun to be good doesnt make it so, its just a subjective preference. How do I know this because I used to be good and it was not fun in anyway.

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Why be a miserable lazy incompetent bitch? It doesn't pay. Being good is something I do because I enjoy it. It's a selfish pleasure.
I dont enjoy being good. And being a miserable lazy incompetent bitch does pay just as often as being good IMO.

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Being good pays. It pays money. It pays respect.
I guess you dont know eveything about me. I assume you think I was never good at any point in my life. Being good pays?, well I was good and it didnt pay, I found I was taken advantage off. I assume you think I dont have a job? Well I do have a job, sorry I should have said that in my OP.

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You want free money? Why? If you did not earn it, what value does it have? None. Money is a condensation of time. That's why it's so much fun. Time is the only unavoidable limit, but money gives you the power to leverage the time of others. So, in effect, it is like getting extra minutes of life when you earn a nice sum of money. But earning it is the only way for it to pay an emotional dividend. Just finding it or falling into it or even stealing it will never do you any good. It has to be earned to be fun.
Money doesnt care where it comes from. Thats like saying you didnt enjoy spending all those birthday gifts (money) you got from your family. Or wedding gifts! So I dont buy that "it has to be earned to be fun" Spending money is fun.

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So if you want money so bad, stop being afraid of expectations. Exceeding expectations is how you make good money. Embrace the high expectations of others, and blow their doors off with extra performance and effort. The money will follow, the time it represents will follow, and thumbs up to the man in the mirror will follow.
How do you know this? How?

I assume you dont think I already put in the hours at work? Do overtime, go above and beyond what I am payed to do? I go to night classes to improve my skills for my job, I get to work early and come home late, I pay for my fuel when its during work hours when I have to go to a site, if theres a problem within the office, I'm the first point of contact, internet, email, plotters, printers, computers, anti-virus software, software in general, web page etc...but thats not even my job thats additional work thats thrown to me, because I'm the nice guy, because other people has these expectations of me, I put in the extra effort and perform and the money did not follow, I got nothing for my efforts even when I asked for a payrise.

Its like I was saying before I have to be offered something and then I will meet the expectations of others. Because to be honest going through that rigmarole of utter BS is not worth it.

Its getting to the point where I want nothing, then I will be nicest guy on the planet, then the world can rape me everyday and take whatever they want.
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:42 AM   #75
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Ok Muck.. simple question.. not trying to rude but this is just a rant thread.... so I gotta ask... Are you wanting help?. Do you want peace? Or do you just want to be mad? Really no point in posting the same thing over and over when people are legitimately trying to help you.. seems these people care more about you (even though we have no clue who you are) then you do your own self... i mean pretty much have a mod close this thread if it's just going to be nothing but negativity.. but if your trying to get something from this thread... then heed the advice of these people... make friends not enemies.. and work to be a better person.... Not sure what else to say dude.. But like always I do hope you figure it out.. whether I know you personally or not..
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