I dont care about my genes being passed through the generations, what a retarded thought, who cares, your dead.

I agree that I should be more selfish and stop helping other people, like I am currently.

I work in a drawing office, I draw tech. working drawings for residential commercial and industrial buildings both through planning and building control stages.

my pay is on the lowish side for my line of work, my pay is £1350 a month but I have a £450 mortgage, £50 a week for fuel for car, £80-100 a week for food, £25 a month for gym, £50 a month for house insurance, £10 for mob. phone a month, then you have normal bills like elec, tele phone line, internet, then you have bills for car if any problems happen to it, and then you have things needed for the house, cleaning products etc....then you have oil fuel for the house, then evey year insurance for the car, MOT and Tax, then you have rates, £300 a year, then you have TV licence a year like £250 I think.

Office work, 9-5, Mon to Fri.

20min commute on good days

I work by myself most of the day, my 2 bosses are out of the office most of the time.

I wasn't saying what you should do, just how people are programmed to behave.

If you spent money like that I don't think you'd have it for very long. Plus you'd attract many manipulative types who just want to sucker you for some cash/gifts.

OP wants to be a philanthropist. Maybe if Op did charity/non profit/social work he'll feel good inside and finally achieve happiness because he's making a difference in people's lives.

Or a teacher so you can raise the next generation of young minds.

yeah I been through this in another thread about charity. yes i have done that and i will maybe go back and give it another go.

Also read other thread in bbv4l .
Get the impression that you are a giver . Could it be that you are feeling drained and burnt out after your last relationship and relationships in general ?

Things that helped me during down swings =

Got myself a cat ( obv. for life ! )
Thought about things i would like to do before i am to old to do them or before i die.
So i went horse riding for the first time and tried archery . Felt totally blissful and could not stop smiling after doing both .
6 years later still do archery . Still am useless at it but have the passion.
Did voluntary work .

u did horse riding and archery alone?

I'm such a pssy, that I'm scared to try new things unless I go with a friend.

Problem is I have no friends. Or most of them have gfs/bfs, work, school, do normal stuff like partying/movies/clubs/drinking that they would never want to go do something new.

Archery was easy , found a place where you could try various things . Did not know there was a local club and later signed up there for a beginners course .
The horse thing was a different matter . Had to really over come my fear\nerves to do that on my own .
I guess if i was nervous to do something on my own i would try to contact club\organisation by email or phone . I guess having a contact person when you go some where new helps .
Apart from trying something new , having a varied group of friends is also good .

I totally agree with you in theory but its harder to practice in real life without consequence. There is a certain expectation from otheres to have a certain moral code that I have to live by.

I just dont know how you have come to that conclusion that to be truly happy one needs real relationships/dating/marriages or love as you put it. I dont know what evidence you could produce to establish that. While I can admit that it can be true for you or other people, it may not be true for myself. I do care about others opinion but I just cant accept your word that to be truly happy one needs real relationships.

I dont know why you mention I dont care about others opinion that dont tell me how great I am, RMC I'm not great in any way. I also dont see it as "pointless money", if thats how you feel about money, then please give me whatever extra money you deem to be pointless. Of course you wont do that so my question would be why dont you if you find money to be a pointless endeavour?

Nothing is wrong with being gay maybe everyone should try it to find that real relationships you speak off.

Well if you want to go down that road that material goods mean nothing at the end of it (death), then I would go one step further and say that everything means nothing at the end of it, because your dead.

I'm not denying that rich people cannot be unhappy, that may be true for some people who are rich but that would not be the case for me.

Life is bigger than me I agree, in fact most things are bigger than me. Whats the opposite of "ego" as in In the common vernacular pride or arrogance maybe its humility. A better description of me would be masochistic/Self-defeating personality.

I dont know what sense of purpose is - other than chasing the yankee dollar, money rules all IMO.

I dont know what sense of purpose is - other than chasing the yankee dollar, money rules all IMO.

So what are you going to do to get the money you desire ?
If you do not get it , will you miserable the rest of your life ?

Well am working full time and looking for another part time job at the moment.

If I don't get it I dont know what will happen.

Police for one, judges, government mostly, boss at work also.


I dont know for sure where true happiness comes from, some would say its a chemical reaction in the brain.
Its close between 7figs a year and 50k a year + plus people. 50k is a lot more than I make now so.........yeah maybe.




We both agree.

Why is any relationship special? Why are you not gay? Is it because you dont feel that way? If you say yes then its not much of leap of faith to understand that I dont feel that way about anyone/relationship.

How does one know who is right for them? I mean you could find someone who makes you happy but there could be another person out there who could make you more happy, so how and when do you know to settle? Why have just one relationship?

Because I dont believe that 7billion people are all the same, I dont believe they all value the same things like relationships or love, maybe just maybe some people can value money more than others, and maybe just maybe find happiness with money.

If I had money I wouldn't be hasseled by other people and I could throw money at them to clear off, so I wouldn't be burdened by the monotony, soul crushing, tedious, rigmarole, empty life that is being pissed away underneath fluorescent tubes, stuck in a office cubical for most of the day.

I tell you what I would if I had a lot of money, I would build big housing developments with swimming pools in each 4 bedroom dwelling and just give them away to whoever I bumped into the street, maybe I would raffle them off for £1 a ticket, just because I can and no other reason.

I would travel the poker circuit and play in each major event, not only that but I would find the biggest fish and stake him for life, just because I can and no other reason.

I would travel the world at my lesiure. Learn how to fly. Go on a submarine, start a fast food chain, and any other crazy **** that popped into my small head.

Hey its not my fault how the world is run. I need money to survive, so that forces to me get a job, I have bills to pay so I have to manage my money, which I do and Im sure you do as well but that leaves me with little to zero, and the highlight of my day would be picking out what flavour of toothpaste I use.........ummmm green or blue..........ummm *** it buy both!

let me get you guys a different perspective on this. I think in the beginning there was a much bigger variety of humans walking around. But in order to survive a certain type of human would thrive. One that enjoys working together with others, that would have the mental and physical features that the average person has now. Working together with other people is a pretty important aspect. That would require enjoying being around others and feeling anxious and depressed as soon as you are seperated from other people. Otherwhise y ou would hang around alone in the wilderness and get killed. so the ones that didnt really care would spend too much time alone, would not form a strong enough relationship with others to help them and would have a much smaller chance of surviving.

That feeling of happiness and anxiety is basicly all chemical, but it is triggered by your enviroment. There are exceptions ofcourse so this isnt true for everyone. I guess if you have bad experiences with other people you can tell yourself you dont need them, but in the end you will feel empty and anxious if you are a normal functioning person. This is purely because back int he days your now average brain was best able to steer a person to do the ways that were best for his survival. I think we are by nature all junkies. We are constantly looking for fixes, except the chemicals are made in our brain. And those fixes are things that used to be good for survival. Having meaningfull relationships with people would mean they would help you out in a big way and would greatly enhance your survival and so the continueing of your existance.
But now they are not necesairy anymore. SO if you sit at home alone and feel depressed it is actually pretty irrational. Unless you are ofcourse a exception. But those kind of people are very rare i think.

Oh and if you are financially secure then you are not going to be more happy with a ridicilous amount of money. I knew alot of rich people and they always made a bored impression on me.

You have to see having loads of money as an experience. Its like going to an amusement park as a kid. Sure its fun the first few times, but it does get old after a while.

PS: Im not saying that these things make us feel good because you would have a better chance of survival. Im simply saying they happened to make us feel good and because as a social person you would survive it caused to be the dominant gene. If having a magnetic skin would have enhanced our survival greatly then we would all be having that right now.

So i guess you guys can both be right. But be carefull to tell yourself certain thruths without thoroughly testing them in reality.

PPS: ofcourse if you dont have money then that is going to cause a great deal of anxiety, and is going to make you unhappy in alot of cases. So in that case more money would equal alot more happiness.

http://www.amazon.com/Flow-The-Psych...&keywords=flow
mr muck try reading this book.

there's been a million scholarly studies on happiness. They all pretty much conclude money doesn't make you happy. They state you just need enough to be comfortable.

But to be fair, it's been so long that I forgotten exactly how the studies were conducted and I've read some retarded studies before.

I remember the happiest countries had universal health care and were taxed high. Which I'm both politically against. Maybe I'm on the wrong side.