I abhor everything about them. I hate how they are too pathetic to bet and too stupid to fold. I hate how they usually do nothing postflop but press the check button (yet still would call a bet, so I usually don't even bother trying to bluff them in an unraised hand). I can't even begin to fathom the thought process of someone who considers his hand not good enough to raise, yet will call huge bets with it, and seeing this stupidity rewarded angers me greatly. Even when I end up winning the hand I find myself annoyed.

Also, I play zoom/fastforward, so seeing people come to a game that's supposed to be fast to play in this way that slows everything down makes it even more annoying.

Being tilted at someone for playing a game, peacefully, within the rules, is something problematic. You would be less tilted if they were making it easier for you to take their money. So get better, and adapt.

That's good advice for me too..

'Stupidly rewarded' happens as often as it's supposed to and if it didn't there wouldn't be a game. But if it helps you adjust your attitude you wouldn't see 'Stupidly rewarded' if they showed you a graph that they probably don't have.

You grow up. You quit judging mankind by how advanced they are at some random game that you've chosen to specialize in. Many play for sport, entertainment, pass time, or the same way they play pit games (knowing they are giving up an edge but seeing if they can get lucky), etc. They are not judging their self-worth by how advanced they are at the flippin' game. Neither should anyone else. They aren't stupid, they are unsophisticated at it. I wonder how sophisticated you would be in their medical practice or law office or software design business. Whey you play golf, I wonder if your level is on par with Phil Mickelson and Jordan Spieth. Is there some reason it should be? Or should they be calling you stupid because golf is their specialty and your are a sucker at it?

Is any of that helping? I don't like that attitude your flashing which is pretty ubiquitous and massively egocentric. "THEY AREN'T GOOD AT WHAT I'M GOOD AT ... WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD ANYWAY!? THIS PUTS ME ON MEGATILT."

Okay, I'll let up. You deserved it. Go forth and walk the earth in the wisdom that judging and insulting others based on your own frame of reference, and being oblivious to the flip side of it, is inanely arrogant. I don't like this rampant attitude in poker players. Unless you like being obnoxious, there's nothing to like in it.

^ Yes, I'm well aware it's not a good thing, hence the reason why I made the thread. You realize this board is not for boasting? You realize the thread's title starts with "how do I stop"?

Anyway, your job and golf analogies are completely out of place, as I never said I expected them to be experts, just to have some common sense. You'd benefit from reading this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
You also don't seem know what ubiquitous means.

I don't consider myself an expert and I don't care about how badly they're playing, I just care about their tedious playing interfering with mine. I can't begin to understand the mindset of someone who "plays" by putting in minimum and pressing the check button forever. Do they seriously consider this entertaining? Being involved in one of those hands where I'm forced to do the same because they never fold is extremely annoying.

Really makes you think, huh?

This is really your attitude? You get annoyed by players that are 'pathetic' and 'stupid?' You're playing in an ideal game and you don't like it? And, to cap it off, YOU don't understand THEIR mindset? Well, most ppl on here don't understand your mindset either.

As I said before, I don't care about the fact alone that they're stupid, or I would have made a thread about bad players in general. It's the limping that's an annoyance. If that's an 'ideal game' I guess I'll have to learn to exploit it, because all it is to me right now is the waste of time of being forced to play a hand I didn't even intend to play.

Well I don't really follow you but I'll keep an open mind. "Ubiquitous" means prevalent and widespread. Such an attitude of derision as you seem to be describing is just that among poker punks. If it's not you, it's not you.

You start with "abhor" and "hate." Those are power-packed, loaded words. Identify what it is rising out of you that causes the hate, and you will be a huge step further to understanding. "I" abhor, "I" hate. It's nothing anyone else is doing. It's you focusing on it as something to hate.

There is nothing hate-inspiring about calling a bet. Only hostility, derision, frustration within, of the perceiver, make it so.

What game do you play?

So basically op hates money?

Play higher.

Seriously how could limpers tilt you. A bunch of people limping is how you know the game is good. All of those free bets to be picked up.

EDIT: OP you get the point of the game is to take the other players money right? Them playing well is bad for that. Limping a lot is one of those basic (and incredibly serious) leaks that fish have. Someone limping a ton, all by itself, is enough to make them hilariously profitable to play against.

So question... How to play against 7 people who limp and call raises with any 2? So every pot you enter there will be 7 other people in it and you can't really bet because they call if they connected and the only way to win is to bet the nuts, in that situation they fold. So what is the strategy? If I raised AKs from UTG and the big blind call my raise (5bb) and reraised me on the K94 rainbow flop? How the hell do I know he has K4o. Thanks.

Obviously you don't know he has K4. What you do in the hand will depend on how he normally plays, and with the size of the pot relative to the remaining stacks. As a general rule, the more people in the pot, the higher the hand needed to win. Similarly, the more money people are willing to put in the pot, the higher the hand needed to win.

In games like these, you are going to have to accept that you will win fewer hands than you would hope - but when you do win they will be much larger than you'd expect, which should make up for it.

Hope it's ok if I ask here.

So I had $500, he is about same or more. $1/2 nl. 9 players, I raised from UTG with AKs $10 because they were calling no matter what. Sb calls, BB calls. I played with BB 1 time and he was losing $100 after $100 all night. This time he was running good or something. So the pot is about $30, flop K49, they check and I bet $17 and face a reraise from BB. I thought he might think it's a cont bet and reraise me with KT, KJ, KQ... He made it $60 and I called. Then a J comes and I made another mistake - I bet $50 and he made it $100. So something like that. Then we go check check when the Q comes. I should have folded on the turn? My image was tight, was card dead....

Should I just sweeten up the pot in a good position when there are like 5 limpers before me or call or raise normally to isolate? I noticed it's impossible to isolate 1, if 1 calls, there comes the rest of them with "implied odds" for 98o and such. So we get a huge pot and if I don't connect, I can't bet into the crowd, they surely have 56, 98, QT and such.

These last two posts would be better in the strat section.

OP, limping is a tool in your arsenal and you'd be foolish not to use it. Getting mad at others who use it in excess to their own detriment is silly. It's like getting mad at people who call draws with odds that certainly aren't in their favor. Yes, they'll suck out and beat you sometimes but you should be playing for long term results. As such, you shouldn't be mad at the poor play of others at your table.

If you can't figure out how to shift gears against these types of opponents, read some strat books on it. And don't tell me you know how to play against them because if you really did, you wouldn't go on tilt when you play them.

Frankly, it sounds like you're a maniac action junky and a gambler. You don't sound like a long term winner. So maybe focus on your own leaks by learning how to adjust to your opponents rather than letting them tilt you. Hint: adjusting means you won't be able to play like a maniac against calling stations.

Actually i can agree with the topic starter that they do slow the game. I tried to make a small raise out of position and a normal raise in p., then never bluff into a crowd and try to connect. Didn't really work out for me, I broke even in 5 hours. I'm new to cash games, tournaments are so much easier