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Old 07-09-2012, 04:21 PM   #16
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Re: How to deal w/ soul-crushing bad variance?

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"Always get my money in good", "no way I'm tilting" ... mmm don't like these statements at all.
I'm serious, for examples, pfai w/ AA vs garbage that hits flush; pfai w/ KK vs lower pp that hit set; ai on turn vs FD that hits; ai on flop vs str8 draw that hits. All these cases I'm probably at least 66% favorite. Of course I don't like these results and get angry but I move on. It doesn't affect my play as I don't make risks or silly moves due to these BBs.


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Are you playing tournaments or cash games OP?
Just cash games.
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:43 AM   #17
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I'm serious, for examples, pfai w/ AA vs garbage that hits flush; pfai w/ KK vs lower pp that hit set; ai on turn vs FD that hits; ai on flop vs str8 draw that hits. All these cases I'm probably at least 66% favorite. Of course I don't like these results and get angry but I move on. It doesn't affect my play as I don't make risks or silly moves due to these BBs.
I don't disbelieve you, but I still don't like "I always get it in good" statements. They're emotive in tone and give you reason to think you're not winning merely because you're unlucky.

Ultimately, this kind of thinking stunts your development as a player to the extent that your analysis of hands will not proceed beyond the bad-beat/suck-out thought. You want your analysis to lead to the mistakes that you're making, however slight these mistakes may be, in your own mind.

What you're doing is wasting time and energy by focusing on these "unfair" results. Rather than saying "I just got bad beat by someone who rivered a flush", you should be thinking, mmm, Villain 1 calls an AI on turn with a naked flush draw, getting less than 2:1 pot odds. This is what you should be storing in your memory bank instead of the pain of losing. The more you take this approach, the sooner you'll become indifferent to short-term results.

Read the books.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:47 AM   #18
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Before i rwad responses to OP ill post, i hate when people say ot part of the game but it is. I have gone on some rough streaks and for me there are a few things ill do. First i was playing in a lot of similar games, so i founds new games and players to sit with. Second your time away from the table is more important. I tried to do some other competitve games, the reason is i knew i was in a poker slump and wanted to compete and win in something else to get my spirits up. Finally i took time away from the game.and just studied, i do this almost any time i go into a slump. I like to step back and read, not just poker books, but books and material that will help me. Read a book on positive thinking if you have to. When i take these breaks they can last for a week to month.

When a break is not possible or wanted yet i work most of the anger out with working out or basketball. As for the cards, this is the game we choose. We are here in hope of having a dumb wanna be baller call our AA with J 10 or AK thinking they are so much better than us. This game is going to punish us, a lot!
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:06 AM   #19
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Re: How to deal w/ soul-crushing bad variance?

Remember that - nothing will last forever. Even your downswing will end. Take a break, go to the sea or ocean. Relax!
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:38 PM   #20
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Re: How to deal w/ soul-crushing bad variance?

Thx for the words, guys. I'll take them to heart.
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:42 PM   #21
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Re: How to deal w/ soul-crushing bad variance?

Try this, it works!

After losing session, swear that this time you are done with gambling forever! Allow yourself to be convinced. You will feel lighter, refreshed, start thinking about new beginnings, feel all around GOOD.

After about living like this for 24 hours or so, the urges to gambol will return, and you will feel refreshed by the little mental vacation that you took away from poker.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:03 PM   #22
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Re: How to deal w/ soul-crushing bad variance?

This is @#%!@%!@# annoying. Damn worst luck ever!##$@!$%@#
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:15 AM   #23
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Re: How to deal w/ soul-crushing bad variance?

Try positive thinking. You keep thinking about having bad luck and the universe will deliver it to you. Watch the documentary called the secret. Even if you write it off as superstitious life is a lot more fun when you think positively.

You have lots of advice in this thread what have you done to change you thought process? You keep posting the same thing over and over again, this is a help forum not a blog. What works what doesn't?
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:08 AM   #24
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Re: How to deal w/ soul-crushing bad variance?

Go over the hand and consider different scenarios. If people are stacking off light start playing lag-ier and keep re-buying. It'll turn around. If you are a nit then just get used to it.
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:05 PM   #25
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Re: How to deal w/ soul-crushing bad variance?

You "always get it in good"? Darm, you must be the best player ever.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:57 PM   #26
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Re: How to deal w/ soul-crushing bad variance?

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You "always get it in good"? Darm, you must be the best player ever.
If you don't have anything constructive to say, why bother? Whatever, dude, obviously over the last period I did 'get it in good' as stated in past post(s) above, not throughout my entire poker career, duh. It's called 'running bad'.

Anyway, I figured out the solution, thx to those that were helpful.
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:22 PM   #27
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Re: How to deal w/ soul-crushing bad variance?

Recently I had my worst down ever, this game can be really hateful. Easy to say, hard to do, I know, but try to have a very short-term memory, each new session feel like you are starting from square one, forget all your recent past sessions.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:50 PM   #28
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Re: How to deal w/ soul-crushing bad variance?

I just started reading "The Poker Mindset" and I would most definitely recommend based on just what I've read so far. Keep in mind as well that your AA will always get cracked as long as you keep playing this game. If you can't learn to accept variance and bad beats than this is not a game for you unfortunately. If you're really passionate about it though just put in time and hard work and you will see good results, best of luck.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:35 PM   #29
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Think of all the times you've made a horrible call and sucked out.

Perspective, if these things didn't happen there would be no game.
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Old 06-16-2013, 05:11 AM   #30
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Re: How to deal w/ soul-crushing bad variance?

I'm bumping this because I'm going through a horrendous 4 month downswing and it's still going. Is it even possible (well, obviously for me, yes) to be so bad in terms of bad variance, getting outflopped, colddecked, etc? I guess that I'm alright in terms of trying to handle it mentally but how does one get over this DS and get back to winning? Any advice? Changes to routine, training, prayers, vitamins? LOL. Thanks.
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