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01-15-2017 , 06:16 AM
Poker websites use various tricks to force you to continue gambling. Tonybet charges comission of 0.07EUR for inactivity. Pokerdom room in some cases requires to play more and more until withdrawal can be finally allowed.
I can personally say for bookies. Pinnacle sports limited using its API by new rule which forces you to bet continuously and with enough amount of money. If you fail to satisfy them then your access to API will be blocked for 3 months.
Though this condition is in force in pinnaclesports since June 2016 there is still no clarifying: how much bets is enough, how much money, how long breaks without any bets is allowed. It is at pinnacle's own discretion. No comments were received from pinnacle.
I have read numbers of posts on betting forums from users which got banned from using API in pinnacle. You know, using API is the only way to automatize betting, create and use bots to make bets programmatically. Bots save you time, nerves, clear mind but it looks like pinnacle doesn't want you to remove "human" mistakes like overbetting. Because human-style betting is more profittable for them. And pinnacle forces you to bet more and more without clearly defined minimum limits.

If you know same tricks from bookies/poker rooms don't hesitate to share them.
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01-15-2017 , 02:43 PM
Where to begin. I wouldn't call any of this "forcing you to gamble" or "tricks." This is all a buyer beware type situation and the reason why reading the terms and conditions is important, especially in regards to cashing out.

Nobody is forcing you to gamble any more than a credit card is forcing you to buy things. You made the choice to click the box agreeing to their terms and you made the choice to deposit money in the first place.
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01-16-2017 , 04:08 AM
Terms and conditions is the way how bookies cover disregard for their clients. And there is always a place for double standards. No rules are 100% followed.
Bookies has advantage on you since you deposited them money. Bookies pay for their not so small stuff from money they got from you. Can you pay for a lawyer from money you got from bookies, their money you just got to hold for the months/years that you have cooperation with bookie?
Comparing with credit card is not correct then. Bank provide you money you did not have before.
Gamblers are a weak side, bookies/poker rooms surely have advantage.

Using money to get more money (that is why you gamble) and spending money using debit/credit card is also two completely different cases.
If you think that you "pay" for a delight from betting, feel more when favourite teams are playing then you are called a recreational player.
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01-16-2017 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Raana
Terms and conditions is the way how bookies cover disregard for their clients. And there is always a place for double standards. No rules are 100% followed.
Bookies has advantage on you since you deposited them money. Bookies pay for their not so small stuff from money they got from you. Can you pay for a lawyer from money you got from bookies, their money you just got to hold for the months/years that you have cooperation with bookie?
Comparing with credit card is not correct then. Bank provide you money you did not have before.
Gamblers are a weak side, bookies/poker rooms surely have advantage.

Using money to get more money (that is why you gamble) and spending money using debit/credit card is also two completely different cases.
If you think that you "pay" for a delight from betting, feel more when favourite teams are playing then you are called a recreational player.
The comparison is accurate in terms of the personal responsibility aspect. It sounds like you need to assume some responsibility instead playing the victim card. You agreed to the terms of the site. You decided to deposit money. You are the one who knew what you were getting into. Stop blaming others for your poor decisions.

There are plenty of genuine cases of victimization and wrongdoing out there. Making up or fishing for some is a pet peeve of mine and minimizes cases in which people really are scammed or ripped off. You knew they were going to take a percentage of your unused deposit but you still deposited. That's on you.
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01-17-2017 , 03:33 AM
That's funny. You are absolutizing rules, meh. Looks like you've never been in any kind of real entrepreneurship.
Is that "agreed to the rules when clicking on checkbox" the mantra you repeat every day? It looks like your personal excuse for everything. Keep it for yourself if you have no arguments beside that.
Even though any gambler including you, meh, is on weak side, gambler always has some options. Cooperation and publicity are among them.

The aim of this thread, if you didn't get it, meh, was to share the ways how pokerrooms and bookmakers encourage you to bet more.
For example sportmarket broker states that it "close accounts that fails to reach a monthly turnover of €5,000 a couple of months in a row"
Minimum deposits and withdrawals is also a way to force you bet more. Minimum deposit is EUR 250 in sportmarket. Same is minimum withdrawal.
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01-17-2017 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Raana
That's funny. You are absolutizing rules, meh. Looks like you've never been in any kind of real entrepreneurship.
Is that "agreed to the rules when clicking on checkbox" the mantra you repeat every day? It looks like your personal excuse for everything. Keep it for yourself if you have no arguments beside that.
Even though any gambler including you, meh, is on weak side, gambler always has some options. Cooperation and publicity are among them.

The aim of this thread, if you didn't get it, meh, was to share the ways how pokerrooms and bookmakers encourage you to bet more.
For example sportmarket broker states that it "close accounts that fails to reach a monthly turnover of €5,000 a couple of months in a row"
Minimum deposits and withdrawals is also a way to force you bet more. Minimum deposit is EUR 250 in sportmarket. Same is minimum withdrawal.
You confirmed exactly the type of person I thought you were. Thank you.
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01-17-2017 , 11:16 AM
Leave the thread, troll.
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01-17-2017 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Raana
Leave the thread, troll.
Not trolling, just stating facts. I think the only way I'll leave is if you lock it.
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02-07-2017 , 10:07 AM
I agree with Dr Meh. no one is forcing you to do anything. If you don't like a particular bookie or pokerroom, just play somewhere else.
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