fasting and poker - Page 2 - Psychology in Poker and Gambling

I haven't intentionally fast from poker, but there were always those times where I my net would go down for a couple of weeks. When I got back I started running like God.

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10-19-2011 , 11:10 PM

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ChipExcess

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Originally Posted by Le Chiffre

Fasting is rather easy if you have something to occupy your mind.

For example, when I was younger I was into videogames. Whenever I got a new videogame I was absolutely consumed by it. My mind was too busy to care about food and I could go days easily without food.

Find something to keep your mind busy enough and fasting is a cake walk.

Fasting becomes even easier when you've friends, loved ones and live in a lovely home. No need to occupy your mind with something that can be just as bad as food. Imo that is only way you can successfully fast unless you were dying.

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10-23-2011 , 11:46 AM

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d3 fact0

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your brain runs off of glucose. Playing poker while fasting is not going to be optimal, unless your body is in ketosis, but for that you pretty much have to give up carbs. Once your body switches from glucose to ketones as the primary energy source, your mental performance will improve, but that takes time.

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10-23-2011 , 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jglsd1

I'm looking to start a 60 day water fast (with exceptions)-until the end of 2011. The exceptions will be: up to one day per week eating (preferably when on vacation) holidays- (Thanksgiving, Christmas, Hanukkah), social occasions. So, I will allow myself ~12-15 days to eat normally for the rest of the year.

I need to lose 60 lbs, and would rather do this over a short period rather than over a very long period.
(70% during the fasting period, the rest more gradually afterwards)

I would say I have a very healthy relationship with food and my weight gain was extremely gradual (we're talking over 8+ years).

So, I have no fear about developing anorexia or binging after the fast is over. I don't have those disorders.

After the fast is over, I will resume normal eating, or possibly restrict 200-500 calories per day in order to lose the last 10-15 lbs, assuming I lose about 40-45lbs during the 60 day fast with the exceptions outlined above.

I'm looking for someone to do this with me, who is at least 30lbs above their ideal weight. We can make periodic youtube videos and/or check in with each other on Skype.

Please, no trolling about the "risks" involved, I have plenty of body fat to convert into energy, I'm not going to die, and if I feel seriously ill at any time-- I will eat.

I've grinded 100k+ hands in one week before, this is the way I like to do things. All or nothing, then I can relax and do things in a normal, measured way. I plan to take the extra time saved from eating, cooking, etc and use that to play poker.

If you're interested in starting this with me please send me a PM.

This is probably one of the most ******ed plans I have seen in a while! You are going to destroy your health. But w/e don't even know why I am responding since in reality you will not last 48 hours on a water fast.

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10-25-2011 , 01:12 AM

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Ever since I have switched to a vegan diet I am positive I am more clear mentally and making better decisions. I play in a high stakes, live, private game, and they order greasy, meat covered pizza midway through the night. There is a VERY noticeable drop off in play after this. I also have much more stamina and am still mentally clear very late in the session when compared to them. Fook eating, I can do that when I get home. I'm metaphorically hunting my food when playing. (Although if the session is going very late, I will occasionally snack on some nuts or an english muffin)

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10-26-2011 , 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MyPoorLil5850s

Ever since I have switched to a vegan diet I am positive I am more clear mentally and making better decisions. I play in a high stakes, live, private game, and they order greasy, meat covered pizza midway through the night. There is a VERY noticeable drop off in play after this. I also have much more stamina and am still mentally clear very late in the session when compared to them. Fook eating, I can do that when I get home. I'm metaphorically hunting my food when playing. (Although if the session is going very late, I will occasionally snack on some nuts or an english muffin)

You naughty rascal

No but seriously, this must be the worst BS I've ever read about food/drink influencing your play.

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07-05-2013 , 09:22 PM

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d3 fact0

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Old thread, but w/e. I am getting ready to go on a water only fast, and plan to continue my daily IP grinding.

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07-06-2013 , 04:47 AM

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Interesting thread.

@ d3 care to update here how things are going with your fast?

I am also thinking about fasting. I have history of eating disorder. So I am afraid that fasting is gonna mess me up completely. Or may be it would do the opposite

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07-06-2013 , 06:57 AM

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Fasting doesn't work until you reach autophagy or food honour. What you haven't watched Toriko? Tori.. Tori.. Tori.. Toriiiko!!!

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07-08-2013 , 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lapka

Starting tomorrow, so far just did a 2-day semi-prep of raw fresh juice, homemade yogurt and homemade meat broth.

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07-09-2013 , 12:01 PM

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ChipExcess

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Originally Posted by d3 fact0

Starting tomorrow, so far just did a 2-day semi-prep of raw fresh juice, homemade yogurt and homemade meat broth.

Yogurt is high in fat and protein. I'd hardly call that a prep.

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07-09-2013 , 03:07 PM

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both are hard on body and mind. i make great care to do the opposite when i play a lot or eat less. i give myself the best during both.

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07-09-2013 , 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChipExcess

Yogurt is high in fat and protein. I'd hardly call that a prep.

that's b/c you are ignorant. You do realize that when in ketosis, your body is running mostly off of fat and ketones, right?

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07-10-2013 , 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by d3 fact0

that's b/c you are ignorant.

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This is probably one of the most ******ed plans I have seen in a while!

Either you're steaming, just highly toxic or both, that's what you sound like to me,. But honestly, it's not hard to see who the real ignorant one is.

The words you choose without any restraint speaks for itself...

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07-11-2013 , 07:41 PM

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d3 fact0

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Originally Posted by ChipExcess

you sound like a vegan, lol...

@ the rest, day 4 of nothing but water. Still here, still grinding... I'd say the most important advise is that if you going to grind during a fast, you really cannot afford to tilt, so if you are someone who doesn't have that part of your game under control DO NOT FAST, b/c that's just going to make the fast -EV on your body.

Also, very important is to fully comprehend and practice the concept of 'energy conservation' both mental and physical during the fast. The cool thing about this is that it should help you to deal with tilt, it does for me.

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07-12-2013 , 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FallsviewPokerPro

Has anyone experimented with fasting and poker? Some advocates of fasting claim it is great for mental work. I have fasted for various reasons with great results but have been cautious about mixing poker with fasting.

This is incredibly dependent on what you mean by fasting and poker. Fasting while playing poker is probably not a great idea. It certainly won't help you play your best. On the other hand, fasting can be a good thing for mental work because it brings your body to a state of lowered defenses where you can have insights into some of the patterns of your psyche and suppressed traumas and emotions. However, this should be done at a time away from the poker table where your focus is the mental work and not anything else.