The tournaments all have antes now. I actually liked them without antes so not a fan of this change, but why on earth would you start the ante on level 1??? It makes no sense....

It makes sense from their business view. Adding antes to the already tricked up cards means faster reentries to tourneys and SnGs.

They could care less about the honesty or purity of the games nor the fair treatment of their players.

Antes from the start is a bit much, cannot imagine the reasoning behind it. Their games are over in three hours usually.

'Tricked up cards'....Jesus, where do these brainfarts come from??

Thoughts on Antes On Global ... To whom it may concern, I want it to first be said that thus far I have had a very enjoyable experience on Global, There cash out speed has been dynamite as well as customer service for me personally .. Generally excellent customer service . I do hope that Global Poker will give this the consideration it deserves, because to me once you introduce antes , antes can make or break the way I feel when I play on a site.. if the antes make the game too fast , if I 'm not getting any hands, then not only am I trying to not tilt because of not getting any hands, but then I am mad at the site for not giving me enough time to get one.. to many antes makes a tournament too fast, and for the people that paid their money perhaps they are unhappy and feel like the site is not really giving them their money on tournaments... I saw on a thread someone mention that antes are a part of tournaments..... ok true , even though I prefer no antes (It gives the players time to play some real hands and either ...do good , mess up, or get unlucky.. at least then they can have a playing related grumble .. but to those that blind out? Sucky ? .. Disgusting? ... yeah... Here are some questions .. In poker, typically , do they ever have antes at the very beginning of a tournament? I am asking I m not used to seeing them in tourneys at the very beginning ... I was in a tourney and seeing them at the very beginning literally, quite sad for my chipstack , quite literally put me on tilt, (but I also got very well trapped

I have very well seen antes near the end of a tourney.. this is after there were no antes at the beginning and thus players were allowed the proper time to build their chip stack with good play

In my opinion, by making the blinds, too fast initially you risk alienating the good players a lot of them .. Grinders AKA regular customers who pay to play and want to win with skill and prove once and for all that there is skill in poker and as a site you have to ask yourself ? Do you want to risk alienating your long time customers because of a bad blind stucture that makes the site feel like Bingo ? I think it is a recipe for disaster... if it were cost based concerns, I would humbly suggest (bow) That if you can't find a perfect blind stucture or at least one acknowledged by knowledgeable people , then I would find it far better and far less to ask the question ... "Which risk is greater, saving money on the time of tournaments? or alienating as Phil Hellmuth might say ... or risk alienating your customers?" ..if I can include myself in this our "customers" Know your customers.

I think it would be far better to not have a blind structure than to have one that is not top notch with chip level to allow for solid game play throughout and I would say for at least 2/3s in my opinion typically with close to 10 blinds at the final table...

Also I would say if for some reason there should ever come up the need to cut cost in my opinion it would be far better to lower the GTDs of some of the tournaments so you don't lose too much money than to make the tournaments unreasonably fast for something that is not a turbo.. there are some that love turbos, I love deepstack turbos and superstack turbos and regular hyper turbo sit and goes ... but there is a time and a place for those and if something plays like a turbo you couild maybe give it a cheaper buyin and charge a bit more for the regular speed games if need be

Keypoint Please don't sacrifice quality for short term financial gains and risk alienating the base of regular players, global is an amazing opportunity that I hope sticks around, also if cost need to be cut please just don't give away so much money that you cause a disaster on a site that in my opinion is set to thrive .

Seperately,

Sit and goes? have these ever had antes on any sites before??

Also I like the idea of some regular and then some different kind of turbo tournaments .. maybe some deepstack turbos and hyper turbo sit and goes a hyper turbo deepstack?

I love the site

Please consider this and act with the upmost care...

Global's structure is fast enough without antes, which is why I've liked it with no antes.

Antes (in both mtt's and sngs) is common in NLHE, but not from level 1 , the early levels don't have antes. In Pot Limit games they should never have antes, I didn't play PLO last night so will have to check and see if they did this.

In global's structure the antes would typically kick in after 100/200. Most tournaments with a structure like GP's would add an additional level there. 100/200, then 100/200 with an ante, then move to 150/300 (and have antes the rest of the way).

I don't think this is some nefarious plot by global to speed up rebuys (lol). Since the onset there have been an number of things that made it clear they don't really have very experienced poker people consulting on the development. I'm guessing this is a product of that. Someone gave the order to add antes to the structure, and the programmers did for all levels because they weren't told any differently. The bright side is it's easy enough to fix. Do what I suggested above, add a level in between 100/200 and 150/300+ante, which would be 100/200+ante. All the initial levels should't have one.

EDIT: I just checked the PLO structure, antes were added there too Pot Limit games should never have antes at any point. The original structure was actually correct there.

100% agree with the first part. That is a draw for me since I get up at 4 AM usual in NY and strating a 6-9 hour tourney on other networks at 6pm or later is tough.

I cannot imagine the thinking behind adding antes to PLO games. Again, all those games are very fast, so that negates that line of thought. They have someone with extensive online gaming/poker experience, at a loss as to the reasoning for antes in PLO games. Hopefully they reverse that asap and change the HE antes until after the first hour, at the very least.

Running a business, or actually playing poker.

I really think they need an experienced player, someone who is seasoned in both live and online play, to consult with for technical details like this.

true, businessman

I would have assumed that there was some consulting group of players to advise, tweak, etc... the games and structures. Seems like that would be a business 101 thing. Curious to hear the explanation for it.

I didn't mind not having antes, but I don't really don't care for starting with so few chips and an ante at level 1. The tournaments were already at a good pace for most sites that America has to play considering in ACR it feels like their tournaments are still in late reg while global's would be ending completely. I do think antes should be in the MTTs and SNGs but added later like Gluten suggested.

Also yeah PLO shouldn't ever have antes.

Does anyone have any hopes Global will actually listen to any of you?? I was heartbroken to see this thread today. I was just telling some friends at work today how I liked the tournament structure here and was looking forward to playing the 2,500 rebuy tonight. Please fix this! If you want to have a turbo tourney then have those too, but don't make your standard tourney a turbo by default. You're taking the skill out of the game. Don't you want to breed good poker players on this site?? Don't you want to have somebody at the WSOP one day with a Global Poker patch on?? Just add the antes at like the 150/300 level like most tournaments. Please?????

I had such high hopes for this site. Anyone reading this that feels like I do, please complain to them on Facebook also. I'm so disappointed right now.

They listen. They can be slow about it currently due to their growth and staffing, and the number of daft people sending them a zillion emails a day over the same issue and panicking when they don't get a response in 2 hours. But they do listen. Case in point, initially their tourney brakes were all over the place and everyone here in the forum was asking for sync breaks. It took them a bit but they listened, and implemented it.

I have faith the antes will get fixed.

Ok, cool. That makes me feel better.

I don't mind antes, but starting antes at level one is a bit to much. Please change to start the antes around level four or five.

And PLO does not need to have antes.

I like the antes early on. I was against it at first, but it makes all pots worth winning.

Just wanted to follow up on this thread.

It looks like Global has fixed the antes. Their NLHE tourney structure has the ante kicking in during the 150-300 level after the first break, and the PLO tourney on the schedule for tonight is back to the original no ante structure.

Thanks Global!

Thanks to everyone who commented on this thread and brought this to our attention.

Seconded! <3 Global Poker.

Does anyone know the reason why they brought back antes?

bc anteless tournament poker is horrendous and has no reason to exist in 2020?

No but hopefully it goes back to normal.

The "small lean team" thought first level antes would be a great priority that breaks every poker norm. I can't wait until the USA becomes a free country and we do not have to suffer from the likes of Dave Lyons tiny mind.

Not fixed for NL tournaments.

Yea I've never seen antes starting at 1st level. Obviously they've done this before, hopefully, enough people don't like it either and they'll change it back. I like playing turbos so this makes me wanna think twice about playing certain tourneys limiting my play.

Appreciate the feedback, even with a little shade attached.

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