2 years ago on ultimate I played the free omaha 8 to learn the game and built up to 10-15 million chips and played highest free game available when I started to see a pattern.
When flopped 2 pair, I would never fill up. Started to keep track and went 48 hands when flopped 2 pair until I got a full house. you till me, something wrong with this software? later would just muck any flopped two pair but only using there free game.
Now remember this was there free game too also I would get A 2 XX as hole cards more then what I would think random. like every 3-4 hands.
But I was new to game and did not know the odds.

Sorry, bro. I signed a non-disclosure agreement with PokerStars, so I probably shouldn't say this, but I want to ease your pain so badly I feel compelled to tell you that you had to be one of the ORIGINAL 100,000 accounts/screen names on PokerStars for the game to be rigged in your favor.

If you're interested, I'll sell you my account, I was in, in the first 50,000 so YOU KNOW you can win on this account. PM me if you're interested.

Good luck.

PS - Here's your sign...

LOL, I didn't even see the 4/16 at 4:16, thats nuts.
Obviously I didn't play these hands optimally, that's not why I posted, nor do I usually play this way. I was up late and up big so i decided to let my curiosity prevail and most likely donate to his obvious AA. Once i lost the first one, I was fairly certain I would get scooped the second as well but i wanted to test that theory. Anyone else find this more than a little bizzare?
The AcAh were the exact same position in villain's hand (1st and 3rd) and both times he ended with the nuts.

PS is a PONZI SCHEME ala madoff. Could PS really pay out everyone if everyone decided to cash out all at the same time?

All this proves on the surface is that you are a losing player who got lucky in a tournament. Congrats on the tourney score.


Las Vegas is built on the money of people who are sure they saw a pattern in roulette and craps and even slots.

If you think you can beat the system then load up your entire bankroll into a site and play the software not the game. No real downside to me as I see it. Good luck with it.


Not that I want to cast any doubt on the pattern mapper system you developed after a few dozen hands of play money Omaha, but you may want to consider learning some of the odds at some point, though really that will just get in the way of you making millions playing the software/not the game.


See, this is a rigged theory I respect. It's made up, but with the intention of making money off someone who will believe in it.


A fake rigged believer to spam a site. Again, at least there is a goal there that makes sense, even though the spam is fairly mundane.


Or a coincidence. Many rigged theories are based on people misinterpreting simple acts of chance.

Maybe you can work that coincidence into your complex identical when not identical hands that both achieved the nuts when not the nuts theory you were working on in that other thread.

Consider the color clothing you were wearing as well. It may very well be an important factor you are leaving out.

Also, keep in mind if it was (4/16 and 6:14) or (4/16 and 1:46) or (6/14 and 6:15) or (6/14 and 6:13) etc you would still be just as impressed and assumed that it meant something.


And the other cards were not of the same suit nor in the same position, but clearly that is not an issue. Oh, he also did not have the nuts both hands.

The reality is simple. You played poorly, then played poorly again because you got mesmerized by basically a mundane coincidence in that your hands were roughly the same.

Lots do this, that is why the games are juicy for those who do not.


Fish/bad players come in many forms. Some just because they do not know how to play the game, but in theory they can learn.

Thank goodness those who have an idea how to play the game, but choose to play it poorly exist in such vast numbers . They provide the money needed to keep this engine going for a longer time.


Yes they could, but it is fun to see so many people excited about using the term Ponzi scheme (albeit incorrectly often) in the past few weeks. Those learn a day a word calenders should have included it it seems...

yes

I can't even believe what I'm reading in this thread.

"Slightly" my ass. After reading NLHTAP, I started getting AA 24% less often than normal. This went on so long that I finally noticed it and did the math.

Thank God I bought HOC, Vol 1. Since reading that, I've been getting Aces only 12% less often than I should. I'll probably have to read HOC, Vol 2 to make a full recovery.

I hope He likes Theory of Poker, because I don't have that one yet and I really want to read it.

Im not sure if they do gain or not. If pokerstars detect a tendency of some players to redeposit money faster than others, then they might gain by making these players lose.

Im not saying is rigged, just saying they surely might gain benefiting player in detriment of other if the choose to do it.

You're probably right....they're not making enough money as it is....From good and poor players alike (rake, fees etc.). Might as well cheat and risk losing it all....Here's your sign!

For those who argue, "there is no incentive for stars to rig" and "it would cost them more if they got caught than if they just ran a fair game", while I agree with you on a logical level, you fail to recognize the power of greed to overwhelm logic.

I'm not saying that Stars is rigged (in fact I am 99% sure it isn't), but using the argument that it would be illogical for them to rig it assumes they think logically. As a poker player, it should be obvious that not everyone does.

Sherman

I was believing I was not winning because of varience latley but starting to believe that the cards on all in are not exactley random. I am starting to think it is based on your numbers in compairson to other players numbers.

I lost 3 straight tourneys in a row with exact same flop with me having the exact same cards (AA) going against exact same cards (10 Qo)

1 time he got a flush other two had two pair.

That is nothing. I have had 12 of my last 15 pocket aces snapped and no I did not slow play them.

I think they saw my 200 % ROI and in comparison to whom I was playing against.

Over the last 20 tourneys I played I had the nuts in which other player recieved the right cards on turn and river.

I am going to go through some of these previous numbers because percentage of this happening has to be less then one percent.

It is starting to be a joke with the hands I am losing to what the other player has.

LOL. Welcome to tournament poker. I'm certain a 200% ROI is sustainable.

While you said previously that Stars does not have an incentive... They do. If you allow to have a poor player have some great wins every once in a while or some huge 1 out wins on the river and getting straights all the time when obviously defeated on an all in WAY to much. Those players will keep playing on Stars.

I saw 7 quads in one tourney. That is over doing it. I only been on there for about a month and seen 4 royals?

I play a lot of live tourneys (low and mid level) in california... I never in my life have had a 80-85 percent losses with pocket aces.

Stars is rigged!! scam scam scam.

(kidding)