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Running bad ~ How unlucky is this? Running bad ~ How unlucky is this?

01-18-2011 , 02:34 AM
After a couple of hours of playing at a 1/2 home game, I'm short stacked UTG raises to 7 gets one caller I shove for $35 with AQ, I get an AMAZING 5 callers and see the flop A T 5 (2 clubs) UTG shoves with KJ of clubs and hits. I head home to play online.

I go to the full ring .25/.50 tables and go on the worst run imaginable, This causes me to tilt off another $100.

First of all out of the 9 hands I was all in I lost 8 and chopped one (AK vs AK)
Here is a list of the equity I had :
80, shove with JJ in the SB vs lost of limp action, called by 55
77.3, flop flush pot sized bet's with j high vs a set
55, shoved with 66 vs AK and dead money in the pot
50, AK vs AK
48.9, 9T suited called shove with guy who had small pair and lost of dead money
42.9, all in with 99 vs AK vs 77 easy triple up but he rivers the Ace.
23.9 check raise bluff with 1 board over to small pp
20.5, C-bet with mid pair and then had value to call his shove of a min raise.
12.2, AA vs K9 40% of his stack in pre and he flops trip 9's

I tilted off a bit of other money top pair vs set's 2 times, but im sure if i was in a better mood i would have been able to fold.
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01-18-2011 , 04:18 AM
Pretty unlucky I guess. What do you want, some kind of calculation to tell you how unlucky this was?
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01-18-2011 , 04:28 AM
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01-18-2011 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rokman
......worst run imaginable, This causes me to tilt off another $100.
Does not equal.
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01-18-2011 , 03:20 PM
You lost 3 hands when you got it in ahead. Nobody has ever been so unlucky as this.
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01-18-2011 , 10:59 PM
you should move up where they respect your raises
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01-31-2011 , 07:14 PM
it's bad but i've seen worse. imagine if your aces got cracked right after the hands you described! that would be bad
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01-31-2011 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rokman
After a couple of hours of playing at a 1/2 home game, I'm short stacked UTG raises to 7 gets one caller I shove for $35 with AQ, I get an AMAZING 5 callers and see the flop A T 5 (2 clubs) UTG shoves with KJ of clubs and hits. I head home to play online.

I go to the full ring .25/.50 tables and go on the worst run imaginable, This causes me to tilt off another $100.

First of all out of the 9 hands I was all in I lost 8 and chopped one (AK vs AK)
Here is a list of the equity I had :
80, shove with JJ in the SB vs lost of limp action, called by 55
77.3, flop flush pot sized bet's with j high vs a set
55, shoved with 66 vs AK and dead money in the pot
50, AK vs AK
48.9, 9T suited called shove with guy who had small pair and lost of dead money
42.9, all in with 99 vs AK vs 77 easy triple up but he rivers the Ace.
23.9 check raise bluff with 1 board over to small pp
20.5, C-bet with mid pair and then had value to call his shove of a min raise.
12.2, AA vs K9 40% of his stack in pre and he flops trip 9's

I tilted off a bit of other money top pair vs set's 2 times, but im sure if i was in a better mood i would have been able to fold.

You have 2 options:
1. Show a graph
2. STFU
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02-05-2011 , 12:08 AM
after that if it makes you tilt take a break..
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02-05-2011 , 09:42 PM
dude, that's a good day for me. learn to take it like a man because that ***** is as standard as it comes, be happy that people still put the money in when behind.
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02-05-2011 , 11:52 PM
This is just standard. Get used to it or quit poker.

Its frustrating & anoying as hell, but its part of the game. As long as you take the right desicion, and make less mistakes than your oponents you are going to win, over the long run.

I have been playing like 8 hours Nl 10, and 20, was up about 100 EU. Then towards the end of my session i drop like 40 EU in 10 minutes.

First i lost about 10 EU with a 3B bluff hand that went kinda wrong. Tard villain whom i have never seen play before called squezze 3B, and flop with a pair of 99 in the whole.( villain lost his entire stack like 5 minutes after sigh ).

Next i lose like 15 EU when i call on the button with AJ, agasint a guy who has Open shoved AI like 10 times in a row, running more hot that i am ever able to describe, he shoves down a lot of crap hands, but he spiked 2 pair trips, straights, flushes all the time.

Anyhow i call him with my AJ, only to look into his AQ.

Next on another table, there is another agro tard, who has been raising like 75 % of his hands & showing, 3 betting, and all sort of tarded play. I wake up with AA in MP, and limps, because i want him to raise me, anyhow like 4 other people limps behind, and the tard makes a minraise on the button, both blinds call. So far so good. I raise it up to 40 BB, everyone folds, and tard calls. flop is 839 rainbow. I check to induce his bet, he calls, and i proced to bet river, he shoves and i call, and he tables 83 OFF suit.

Anyhow not looking for comfort. Just trying to point out that this is how cruel, and brutal the game, is.

Just because we are better than our oponents, does not mean we always win. ( Or in fact we will always win over these sorta players in the long run, but shorterm, anything can happend)
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02-07-2011 , 09:07 AM
Honestly if it's not happening for weeks or months in a row, it can't even be called a cold streak.
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02-12-2011 , 03:39 PM
Try losing 2.5K in 2 days at 100s in HUSNGs and then talk about bad luck. I've run into quads countless times and same goes for every other monster. The ridiculous part is that I've always hit the boards too... Moreover, I've lost close to a dozen flips in a row. Bodog feels so rigged... like they've engineered it to create streaks and thus make you crave playing more when you're losing while getting false confidence when winning. For instance, I've also had a 19 game winning streak at 100s. However, when I start running bad, it's also VERY streaky and can last even for 100+ games. It's completely insane. Just last game I flopped a straight and the guy backdoored a flush... his only outs. I don't notice this on other sites and many top regs tell me to stop playing if I'm running badly because that's how Bodog works even if you don't tilt. Unfortunately, they have been right thus far and I wonder if I was the foolish one when I told them that probabilities don't change from hour to hour. I've tolerated bad streaks well but it's starting to make me question the integrity of the site. No wonder they're trying to get rid of hand histories and database programs...

BTW: I am only suspicious of Bodog. Bad runs on Stars or FTP never had this character.
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02-12-2011 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by suncar
Try losing 2.5K in 2 days at 100s in HUSNGs and then talk about bad luck. I've run into quads countless times and same goes for every other monster. The ridiculous part is that I've always hit the boards too... Moreover, I've lost close to a dozen flips in a row. Bodog feels so rigged... like they've engineered it to create streaks and thus make you crave playing more when you're losing while getting false confidence when winning. For instance, I've also had a 19 game winning streak at 100s. However, when I start running bad, it's also VERY streaky and can last even for 100+ games. It's completely insane. Just last game I flopped a straight and the guy backdoored a flush... his only outs. I don't notice this on other sites and many top regs tell me to stop playing if I'm running badly because that's how Bodog works even if you don't tilt. Unfortunately, they have been right thus far and I wonder if I was the foolish one when I told them that probabilities don't change from hour to hour. I've tolerated bad streaks well but it's starting to make me question the integrity of the site. No wonder they're trying to get rid of hand histories and database programs...

BTW: I am only suspicious of Bodog. Bad runs on Stars or FTP never had this character.
ive been thinking about this too... unbelievable bad streaks happen on bodog and it can go on for weeks. its like they have a doomswitch on you if you try to put in volume.

can anyone check on this?
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02-14-2011 , 11:27 AM
OK, here is my 2 cents-

Stop shoving weak.

A. The math side of the game is about relative hand strength, not absolute hand strength.

B. People will call with all sorts of trash, so control the pot size and stop trying to get it all in early in the hand.

C. The Bull Sh## they call you with will beat your AA sometimes and it seems to happen in bunches.

D. Hands like 55 and AK look big when you are running bad, but they ARE SPECULATIVE. Even JJ is not very strong vs likely calling ranges of even moderately decent players, especially once the pot gets big. Do not play weakly, but caution is necessary in NLHE. Even if you you believe are ahead preflop or on the flop with any of these types of hands you should not be looking to get all in; they are vulnerable. Your pot equity is less important than your implied odds and reverse implied odds. ie.. ..If you suspect you have 60% pot equity, but there is 10x pot remaining to be bet, you should be looking to control the pot; you can still bet in position to get value, but you should not try to get all in because you will often find your opponent had you drawing almost dead with a hidden hand. Why else would they play a big pot? Focus on pot control for most (not all) moderately strong hands (top pair, over pairs, 2 pair on a coordinated board) and you will reduce your swings. Coincidentally, your slow plays (vs very aggressive opponents) will earn more because it will look like you are playing pot control.
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