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which has higher variance, coin toss vs dice roll? getting confused which has higher variance, coin toss vs dice roll? getting confused

06-26-2016 , 04:10 AM
Dusting off some high school stats and getting confused over the following:

Two betting games
1. pick right side of coin, even-money bet (p = 0.5, q = 0.5)
2. pick right value in a 10-sided die, pays 9x original bet (p = 0.1, q=0.9)
where p is probability of picking the right choice, q is probably picking wrong.

After n bets for large n, the winnings follows a binomial distribution for both games.
The variance I believe should
n*p*q

which is 0.25n for game 1
and 0.09n for game 2.

but intuitively I know game 2 has higher variance, so what's the deal?
I am sure I missed something really obvious.

Cheers
Sam
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06-26-2016 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by hakkr
but intuitively I know game 2 has higher variance, so what's the deal?
Why would you think that? Max variance is always on a 50% bet, and the farther you get away from that, the lower the variance.
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06-26-2016 , 11:40 AM
The variance on the number of wins will be highest on a 50% bet. However game 2 will experience higher $-variance because the payout for each win is much larger.
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06-26-2016 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoshi63
The variance on the number of wins will be highest on a 50% bet. However game 2 will experience higher $-variance because the payout for each win is much larger.
This. Variance is the sum of squared distances from the mean divided by the number of events. The (dollar) mean in both cases is 0. In the coin flip, the distance is always the same (1) and 1 squared is also 1. It should be easy to see that the dollar variance per flip is 1.

In the dice version, it's 1 in 9/10 cases, and 9 otherwise. So for every 9 instances of -1 (which contributes 1^2 to variance) you get 1 instance of +9 (which contributes 9^2 = 81). So think of like a canonical streak of 10 events, with 9 losses and 1 win. Your variance would be
(1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+81)/10 = 90/10 = 9
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