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05-20-2011 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BredByAliens
Have any of you "Math Geeks" ever considered the possibility that this user or any other that aren’t as mathematically inclined as you, possess talents that neither you nor I nor the overwhelming majority don’t? Maybe they are a musician that creates and performs and their music is being played on YOUR iPod. If there were no musicians we wouldn’t need an iPod to begin with. So just continue to berate others because you can comprehend math on a level higher than they can. I’m sure you’ll make a lot of friends with that philosophy. There IS a life beyond math and i propose you search it out.
My point is that it's NEVER OK to address people in a condescending and/or derogatory manner.

Nevertheless, I answered the question.

I'm not calling OP a dick or an *******. I'm saying I don't like how he's addressing the folks he's requesting information from. I'm also pointing out the question is poorly formed (assumptions must be made to provide an answer) and the information is relatively useless.

You don't know me. I don't know OP.
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05-23-2011 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Cydonia
Flops like AKQ, AQK, KQA etc. all count as one combination?
http://www.mathsisfun.com/combinator...mutations.html
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08-22-2011 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Melvinvanhorn
Just because you wrote an extremely dry and boring book doesn't mean you get to berate people are aren't familiar with elementary statistics. Or maybe it does... WP sir.

hahaha, awesome reply
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08-25-2011 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by duhWinning
hahaha, awesome reply
Except that he has written quite a few books.
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08-26-2011 , 09:21 PM
I'm still waiting to hit a royal flush in cash games (I had a few playing zynga ages ago, but you usually get to see the river with play money games, so your chances of getting the royal increas) let alone flopped one.
Tony G was lucky enough to flop a royal on TV. Unfortunately for him, he didn't get paid off. Not really surprising though, as the turn was the 9 of the same suit! Crippled deck, or what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjKpWrT8X7g
Worth watching just to hear Juanda say "I had twips!"
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08-27-2011 , 01:17 PM
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this was right before the FT....kinda sick cuz the guy rivered a full boat and called my shove

(i guess copy and paste the link)
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08-27-2011 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BredByAliens
PS - You might wanna try teaching junior high math sometime and realize how many kids cant even multiply. Id love to know how you pulled 13 year olds with a 95 IQ out of the thin air. Did you do all the research and grind out all the statistics to arrive at those #'s?
Well, the ass is a great place to find random numbers, imo. Personally, I would expect very few 13 year olds with 95 IQs to figure this out even AFTER they recently studied the material. My 10-year old nephew would not be able to do this in 3 years sadly. I would say 90% of adult Americans (thank you for the percentage, ass) couldn't even do it if asked to on the spot.
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08-28-2011 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BredByAliens
Have any of you "Math Geeks" ever considered the possibility that this user or any other that aren’t as mathematically inclined as you, possess talents that neither you nor I nor the overwhelming majority don’t? Maybe they are a musician that creates and performs and their music is being played on YOUR iPod. If there were no musicians we wouldn’t need an iPod to begin with. So just continue to berate others because you can comprehend math on a level higher than they can. I’m sure you’ll make a lot of friends with that philosophy. There IS a life beyond math and i propose you search it out.
You didn't get my point. The OP committed two errors. Firstly he assumed that that his question could only be answered by math experts (because he obviously made no effort to learn the simple probability, that even 95 IQs are capable of learning, that ansewrs his question). Secondly instead of asking for the help of math "experts" he chose instead to use the insulting word "geeks", most likely as a defense mechanism to keep him from feeling inferior to those whose thinking ability is greatly above his.

This wasn't the first time some mathematically illiterate poster has asked math geek's for help with a super easy problem. It just happened to be the straw that broke the camel's back for me.
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08-28-2011 , 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tringlomane
Well, the ass is a great place to find random numbers, imo. Personally, I would expect very few 13 year olds with 95 IQs to figure this out even AFTER they recently studied the material. My 10-year old nephew would not be able to do this in 3 years sadly. I would say 90% of adult Americans (thank you for the percentage, ass) couldn't even do it if asked to on the spot.
Realizing that you multiply 20/52 x 4/51 x 3/50 x 2/49 x 1/48 is within the capababilities of the majority of thirteen year olds who have been taught the general principles. On the other hand your estimate that ten percent of adults could do this on the spot is WAY too high.
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08-28-2011 , 11:31 PM
+1, can't wait to get one
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08-29-2011 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
Wow. Both diamonds. What are the odds of that?
50/50, they're either both diamonds, or they're not.
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08-31-2011 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
You didn't get my point. The OP committed two errors. Firstly he assumed that that his question could only be answered by math experts (because he obviously made no effort to learn the simple probability, that even 95 IQs are capable of learning, that ansewrs his question). Secondly instead of asking for the help of math "experts" he chose instead to use the insulting word "geeks", most likely as a defense mechanism to keep him from feeling inferior to those whose thinking ability is greatly above his.

This wasn't the first time some mathematically illiterate poster has asked math geek's for help with a super easy problem. It just happened to be the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

He most likely didn't mean to be offensive. He was most likely just seeking mathematical assistance.
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08-31-2011 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Megastar11
He most likely didn't mean to be offensive. He was most likely just seeking mathematical assistance.
I agree. Plus, if someone called me a math geek, I'd take it as a compliment.
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09-01-2011 , 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Sherman
I agree. Plus, if someone called me a math geek, I'd take it as a compliment.
It is posssible I am living in the past where the label meant you don't get the girl. The sweaters in recent no limit holdem I have been playing in suggest that things may finally have changed.
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09-01-2011 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Realizing that you multiply 20/52 x 4/51 x 3/50 x 2/49 x 1/48 is within the capababilities of the majority of thirteen year olds who have been taught the general principles.
It may be within their capabilities, but I would not expect them to be able to answer the question asked as it was stated in the OP. If they were given the exact same problem for homework before being tested, maybe. We'll probably never know for sure since most parents would probably yell at their teachers for teaching their 7th/8th graders poker calculations. This is because Mom and Dad (or maybe just Mom?) would struggle with the calculations themselves as their kids asked for help with homework. Also when people have 95 IQs, math is often not a major priority for them. You're lucky that they are capable of spelling correctly.

Since I got a 27 on the ACT in math in the 7th grade, I would have faith in myself. But kids that will later be expected to make below a 17 in math on the ACT as a senior in HS, I have little faith.
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11-07-2011 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
It is posssible I am living in the past where the label meant you don't get the girl. The sweaters in recent no limit holdem I have been playing in suggest that things may finally have changed.
Strange how everything in life comes down to how many girls you can get.
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11-07-2011 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by striiing
Strange how everything in life comes down to how many girls you can get.
I don't find it strange at all. If a male were not able to attract a female, life would not be at all.
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11-08-2011 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
You didn't get my point. The OP committed two errors. Firstly he assumed that that his question could only be answered by math experts (because he obviously made no effort to learn the simple probability, that even 95 IQs are capable of learning,
I have an IQ of 94, which means I can neither comprehend basic probability theory, nor understand that a person could possibly do these calculations without being a math geek.

I find you narrow-minded and your post insulting.
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11-08-2011 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Insistent_
I have an IQ of 94, which means I can neither comprehend basic probability theory, nor understand that a person could possibly do these calculations without being a math geek.

I find you narrow-minded and your post insulting.
95 is oddly a more evenly rounded number.
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11-08-2011 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Insistent_
I have an IQ of 94, which means I can neither comprehend basic probability theory, nor understand that a person could possibly do these calculations without being a math geek.
He just said that 95 IQs could do it, not that 94 IQs couldn't do it.
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11-08-2011 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BruceZ
He just said that 95 IQs could do it, not that 94 IQs couldn't do it.
How am I supposed to understand that?
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11-08-2011 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Insistent_
How am I supposed to understand that?
The same way Bruce did. By reading it.
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11-08-2011 , 06:37 PM
Some great trolling is this thread, imo. And I was definitely much harder on 95 IQ kids than David ever was. Then again, I don't think I have met someone with a ~95 IQ who has admitted it, most people with that IQ never get formally tested in the first place.
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02-06-2014 , 02:53 PM
PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $1.73 (VPIP: 78.57, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
CO: $4.48 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 3)
Hero (BTN): $7.67
SB: $5.00 (VPIP: 17.46, PFR: 17.46, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 130)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J Q

CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.22, fold, fold, CO calls $0.17

Flop: ($0.51, 2 players) T A K
CO bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25

Turn: ($1.01, 2 players) A
CO checks, Hero bets $0.96, CO calls $0.96

River: ($2.93, 2 players) 7
CO checks, Hero bets $2.80, CO raises to $3.05 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.25

Spoiler:
CO shows A 7 (Full House, Aces full of Sevens) (Pre 55%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows J Q (Royal Flush) (Pre 45%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $8.66


Flopped it
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03-03-2014 , 01:01 PM
Flopped a royal on Bovada last night (got action on river thankfully as the board ran out a straight, so villian thought we were chopping), my first flopped royal and 3rd overall (hit another on Bodog 4 years ago with QcTc on turn and I've also hit a one-card one on FTP with AdXx.

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