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10-25-2015 , 03:07 AM
I have an excel spreadsheet with formulas to tell me the EV of a given hand, that's straight forward.

(Win %, win amount($), Lose %, lose amount($) and then it spits out the EV)

What I want to do now is create one where I input everything except the Lose amount($) so for instance I'd put in:

(0.42 x $1.00) + (0.58 x ____) = 1

Where 1 is the minimum EV I would want. Then the formula would tell me the blank (aka the max amount I should call in this situation).
I basically want the calculator to spit out the minimum calling amount (that I can then convert to a percentage of the pot) where the EV would be at least 1.

I can't do basic maths obviously!
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10-25-2015 , 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueLagoon32
I have an excel spreadsheet with formulas to tell me the EV of a given hand, that's straight forward.

(Win %, win amount($), Lose %, lose amount($) and then it spits out the EV)

What I want to do now is create one where I input everything except the Lose amount($) so for instance I'd put in:

(0.42 x $1.00) + (0.58 x ____) = 1

Where 1 is the minimum EV I would want. Then the formula would tell me the blank (aka the max amount I should call in this situation).
I basically want the calculator to spit out the minimum calling amount (that I can then convert to a percentage of the pot) where the EV would be at least 1.

I can't do basic maths obviously!
But you can do excel!

I'm going to rename "lose amount" as "lamo" and "minimum EV" "me." So from (0.42 * $1.00) + (0.58 * me) = lamo we can derive:
me = (lamo - 1.00)/0.58 + 1.00
As you can see, I have me as a linear function of lamo
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10-25-2015 , 05:05 AM
That's great but I need lamo on the left of the equation
(I need to figure out what lamo will be)

So I can go to the lamo cell in excel and make it "=(blah blah blah*blah blah blah)+1 " etc
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10-25-2015 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueLagoon32
That's great but I need lamo on the left of the equation
(I need to figure out what lamo will be)

So I can go to the lamo cell in excel and make it "=(blah blah blah*blah blah blah)+1 " etc
I see I erred by inadvertantly swapping the variable names. That was truly lame. It should have read:

"...from (0.42 * $1.00) + (0.58 * lamo) = me we can derive:
lamo = (me - 1.00)/0.58 + 1.00"
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10-25-2015 , 06:27 AM
Wait I think I got it!!

ev = (0.4 * 10) + (0.6 * X)
Isolate 'X':
ev - (0.4 * 10) = 0.6 * X
ev - (0.4 * 10)/0.6 = X

Seems to be it!!

Last edited by BlueLagoon32; 10-25-2015 at 06:33 AM.
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10-26-2015 , 07:15 PM
Excel can do this for you. The easiest way is to use named variables but you don't have to. In one cell write out the EV equation, like for an all-in call

= eq*(Pot + Call) -(1-eq)*Call

Have 3 cells containing values for eq, Pot and Bet. Then use Excel's Goal Seek function to find the value of the critical factor to make EV=0

I've done this for several situations -- calling a bet, making a lead bet, raising and it works great.
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10-26-2015 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by statmanhal
Excel can do this for you. The easiest way is to use named variables but you don't have to. In one cell write out the EV equation, like for an all-in call

= eq*(Pot + Call) -(1-eq)*Call

Have 3 cells containing values for eq, Pot and Bet. Then use Excel's Goal Seek function to find the value of the critical factor to make EV=0

I've done this for several situations -- calling a bet, making a lead bet, raising and it works great.
Holy crap I had no idea! That's amazing! Will definitely be using this in future.
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