Stud 8:

P1: [44]4T77[7]
vs
P2: [33]TQAA[A]

No slowplaying on any street

or

PLO:

P1: Q9ddxx
vs
P2: Axddxx

JTxddd[xo][Kd]

Players gii otf

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: jt*

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
qd9dxx	33.12%	198,710	32
ad*dxx	66.88%	401,258	32

Stud hand definitely seems worse than that.

Thanks for your reply but...

How does 2 outs = 33.12% equity? I'm no omaha expert but that's extremely hard to fathom

I think it was something to do with the third diamond on the flop or the random non diamond cards in the hands. If you narrow it down to Q9ddxx needing to hit the K or 8, it drops down to ~8%.

the way you simulated it allows the *d on the flop to also be Kd or 8d, meaning there's a 2 out of 7 chance he's already flopped the SF

here's a simulation assuming he hasn't already flopped it:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: j t 5

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
ad 3d **	88.53%	531,191	35
Qd 9d **	11.47%	68,774	35

ProPokerTools Stud Hi/Lo Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
4h 4c 4s	91.45%	538,398	556,505	0	23,131	2
3h 3d Ts	8.55%	41,006	43,495	0	18,729	2

ProPokerTools Stud Hi/Lo Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
4h 4c 4s Tc 7h 7s	95.11%	570,640	570,640	0	0	0
3h 3d Ts Qc As Ah	4.89%	29,360	29,360	0	0	0

Stud8 is worse imo.

Ah, so there is a stud stove-like thingy. Thanks dude

Still don't like the omaha answer. I assume when side cards are known and not listed that they 1) aren't the Kd or 8d 2) didn't pair the board 3) didn't pair in hand. Given that, it's a pure 2 outer twice with 41 cards left, which is easy by hand or just

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=10255815
pokenum -h ad 4d - qd 9d -- jd td 5d / 2s 2d 2h 2c
Holdem Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Jd Td 5d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ad 4d 741 90.37 79 9.63 0 0.00 0.904
Qd 9d 79 9.63 741 90.37 0 0.00 0.096