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02-13-2016 , 10:44 PM
My biggest problem is coming up with the $500 deposit.

I don't understand it really, it seems like a scam somewhat..

Why would you want $500 deposit, when we learn all the stuff we could just leave and use what we learned to make our own profit without the need to be staked?

I'm a college kid, and I'm struggling with finding assistance with poker but I have a real passion and I just don't have $500 to start but I am someone that will put up nearly 60+ hours a week in order to be successful.
02-14-2016 , 09:23 AM
Hi,

You should be more careful with throwing around words like "scam", when referring to somebody's well established business. Best practice is usually to assume good intentions, and ask whatever is not clear to you in a friendly manner (i.e. not using words like "scam").

We work with the best in the world.

Our PLO head coach is a WSOP champion, Kasino Krime. He also makes videos for Deuces Cracked for years.

Our SNG coach is the highest ranked SNG player in the world for 2015 accros all sites, and stakes, and formats, bencb789.

We work with the best poker DB analyst in the world - Alan Jackson, the man behind Pokermetrics, makes videos for Bluefire poker...

In other words, we work with the best in the business. That is why we get the best results.

We have the longest-standing coaching thread on 2+2 (LINK >>), we have our own forums on 2+2 (this one) as well as HSDB (LINK >>). We are regularly featured on HSDB (LINK 1 >>, LINK 2 >>), Pocket Fives (LINK >>)...


Why would all these people risk their reputation to scam a Micro player for 500 bucks?


When a player joins, he agrees to Terms and Conditions and/or signs a contract to share 50% of his profits before reaching a certain profit target, which is in most cases 60k EUR, and for Micro 6-max program it is 10k EUR.

This is legally binding - you cannot just take our resources and time, learn how to beat the games, and then walk away without paying the agreed profit share. That's how it works - we give the know-how in advance, then receive the agreed profit share.

This way also somebody like you (lots of time and drive, low on the finances) can get poker coaching without a big upfront investment on hourly coaching, and without risk of paying for coaching which doesn't work.

It's a win-win situation, that's the beauty of it.
02-14-2016 , 02:20 PM
I didn't mean to insult you by saying the scam part, I get what you're saying.

Thank you for the response, that cleared everything up for me perfectly.
02-14-2016 , 05:45 PM
You're welcome.
03-03-2016 , 06:58 AM
I am also a student and seriously interested in this program but the $500 seems a bit to high to come up with for me.

Would there be any possibilities to spread the 500 over a month or 2 or something?
03-03-2016 , 07:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by morexry
I am also a student and seriously interested in this program but the $500 seems a bit to high to come up with for me.

Would there be any possibilities to spread the 500 over a month or 2 or something?
Hi, if you are seriously interested, write to janez@bestpokercoaching.com, and explain your situation more in detail. Perhaps we could arrange something.
03-03-2016 , 08:47 AM
I have send you the email.

Looking forward to hearing from you.
03-04-2016 , 03:38 AM
Guys, in addition to what has been said, also think about the 500 security deposit the following way.

The best way to understand a price is to compare it. You might say $4000 is a high price, but not if you found out that it's a new Ferrari, right?

In other words, if you think $500 for the security deposit is "a lot", you haven't read all the benefits you will get. Because if you did, you'd jump on it like you'd jump on a hot girl


In other words, you need to compare the price to the alternatives and what you get for it!



What is your alternative to CFP... well it's getting world class coaching paying by the hour?


* Pay $200- $500/hour, and that is without all the great material. Usually that's enough for an introduction, covering a few leaks and then no follow up. If you take things serious, you will invest AT LEAST $5000. Upfront.

* You have no guarantees for winning

* You don't get extensive study material above and beyond


1-1 coaching isn't bad, but i think BPC does not get enough credit for being very innovative and finding a way how people can get all the benefits without the risks involved.


What about CFP:

When you join CFP you don't pay one cent until you really win real money. You get a lot of materials and coaching upfront. You join a great community...i could go on about all the things (you can find all details in our FAQs).

You get ALL OF THIS, with the simple caveat of paying a security deposit. The sickest part of all of this is: You will even get that money back on completion of the program !!!

Now that i think about it, we should probably keep it lol (no worries, we wont)!
03-05-2016 , 08:38 AM
Are the terms and conditions visible anywhere?

What happens if you never get to the payback??
03-05-2016 , 09:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blunderer
Are the terms and conditions visible anywhere?

What happens if you never get to the payback??
Yes, you can read all the Terms and Conditions in our FAQ here: https://bestpokercoaching.zendesk.co...-CFP-contract-

What do you mean by payback? If you do not reach the profit target?

First of all, there is no reason why you would not. You just keep moving forward, if you have less time and want to improve "part-time", you will go slower than others (and probably the 6-max Micro is your best bet in such case). There is no time limit on reaching the target.
03-05-2016 , 02:13 PM
Many thanks for posting the link

What are the expectations of the starting bankroll, and what happens (however unlikely) that the player busts his bankroll - would this fall into the reasonable exceptions

Or would it be the case that in the event of the player busting out he has to keeping rebuying a new bankroll or pay out the hours used x price?
03-05-2016 , 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blunderer
Many thanks for posting the link

What are the expectations of the starting bankroll, and what happens (however unlikely) that the player busts his bankroll - would this fall into the reasonable exceptions

Or would it be the case that in the event of the player busting out he has to keeping rebuying a new bankroll or pay out the hours used x price?

Starting BR - the bigger, the better for you. You could start as low as with 50 EUR, some guys do it and start at the bottom. It will take more time in that case, of course.

If you bust your BR, it will mean you completely disregarded all the guides and instruction on bankroll management and likely also playing. In other words, you probably got drunk, took your BR to a high limit and busted it in 2 hours.

Just so you understand how something like this would happen. This has NEVER happened.

You are asking about a very specific and even more unlikely scenario. In that case we would sit down and find a solution. It would depend on the specific situation.
03-21-2016 , 10:21 AM
Hi,

sure you can suggest something.
If you want you can send it to our support via support@bestpokercoaching.com

Hope to read you soon there.
03-26-2016 , 02:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knittle
My biggest problem is coming up with the $500 deposit.

I don't understand it really, it seems like a scam somewhat..

Why would you want $500 deposit, when we learn all the stuff we could just leave and use what we learned to make our own profit without the need to be staked?

I'm a college kid, and I'm struggling with finding assistance with poker but I have a real passion and I just don't have $500 to start but I am someone that will put up nearly 60+ hours a week in order to be successful.
Anything that asks for money upfront, in return for future riches, is almost always going to be a scam.

Do your research and apply some basic common sense - if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I see adverts for BPC on 2+2 - it says 'learn how to turn $50 into $100k'. Given how tough online poker is these days, that sounds like an outright scam designed to pull in suckers like you who believe the dream is still alive.
03-26-2016 , 06:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
I see adverts for BPC on 2+2 - it says 'learn how to turn $50 into $100k'. Given how tough online poker is these days, that sounds like an outright scam designed to pull in suckers like you who believe the dream is still alive.
The "dream" is very much alive, as proven by our students month after month. See results here, visit our page and read their blogs from day 1, starting as a donk, to day X, finishing the program with 60 000 EUR profits 5, 7, 12 months later.


The $100k story is not simply an advert, but a real story that happened with one of our students, and you can read all about it here:

http://www.bestpokercoaching.com/how...-hansthegreat/


Funny enough, he also got comments of "wasting time" at the start of the challenge on this forum from some people...

The point is, ANYTHING is doable if you are committed, and have the DESIRE to make it. For those that fit the category, we lead the way. We have done so again and again, and will continue to do so.

The dream lives on over at BPC - but don't take our word for it, listen to what our former students have to say about us here: http://www.bestpokercoaching.com/cfp-testimonials/

      
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