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10-03-2016 , 10:24 PM

Flopdanuts

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I hope this makes sense. I've noticed that sometimes players will verbalized a bet amount with the connotation of a question. "$30?" For example. Has anybody noticed what this typically means? Does it mean nothing? It's almost as if they are asking "will you call 30?" Or "will you fold for $30?"

I hope what I'm asking is making sense. Just something I've noticed but never really taken note of a pattern with it.

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10-04-2016 , 04:05 PM

Snipers35

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Depends on the person. Make a note of what they show down.

I used to have a reg at a game that every single time he verbalized with a question, he was weak and would fold 100% of the time to a raise.

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10-06-2016 , 03:51 AM

Citvej

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I remember one time when negreanu streamed he talked about this. He was readingsome tells of players that he had noted in his phone but of course didn't reveal their names. He said that a player in those instances was bluffing. I recommend you see what they showdown when they do that and connect tbe pieces together.

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10-06-2016 , 01:54 PM

hOoLiGaNNNNNNN

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Would definitely say it is suspicious. However, I wouldn't always account it to be a bluff.

As you said, they might feel like they have a decent hand (TPTK, two-pair, etc) and are unsure of the right amount to bet so they can get a call.

So, you will need to see what they showdown a few times before you can determine which one it is. Perhaps it is neither and it sounds like a question because they are looking at their stack and making sure they put out enough chips.

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10-10-2016 , 11:00 PM

Synchronic

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What about this with checking? Player says ""Check??"" in obvious question mode when he's not sure of the action, but it always seemed to me if you say the word "check" you have checked yourself, regardless of tone. Never really enforced that way though.

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10-12-2016 , 07:32 AM

Benat

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I forget the name for this kind of accent but Australians are always saying things as though they are asking questions, it was also popular with young (and almost always dumb) English people a few years ago (and possibly still is today, I'm unsure) and also Ive heard Americans talk as though they are asking questions for example: "That time we went to band camp......" I forget the movie (think it was Al green).

so id say you have to correlate this one and obviously ignore it if they speak this way in regular conversation.

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10-12-2016 , 10:11 AM

answer20

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Player by player basis ... but in general I would think that this player is unsure that he really wants to make this action or is reverse telling you into thinking that.

It could be he is unsure of what you are willing to call.
It could be his is unsure he should bet at all.

I've seen it both ways .. just beware of the player overacting, which would lead me to think he's strong. GL

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11-15-2016 , 01:18 AM

mbrown1833

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Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 170

I've used the question bet before. Typically use it with players I am friendly with at that moment. Hadn't really thought of it as a tell but I can tell my own tendencies when I do use it. Thank you for bringing it to my attention!

The mind tends to think that it's an invitation to a call-- but like most poker tells, is likely just the opposite.

Good observation.

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11-16-2016 , 02:22 AM

Raistlyn M

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Without any other factors to consider, I'd use this information to exploit my opponents. Bluff catch lighter, raise more often, float wider, etc.

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Originally Posted by Snipers35

Well said. I think everything depends on the person, but this line usually represents uncertainty.

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Originally Posted by answer20

but in general I would think that this player is unsure that he really wants to make this action
It could be his is unsure he should bet at all.

just beware of the player overacting, which would lead me to think he's strong. GL

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11-17-2016 , 12:47 AM

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apokerplayer

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Originally Posted by Flopdanuts

Yeah, the general meaning is that it's a strong hand. It's just an unconscious leak of relaxation; wanting to express a little uncertainty. Bluffers are unlikely to want to sound uncertain or make uncertain sounds.

I don't think it's that meaningful early in a hand, when bets are small, but for larger bets it'll be pretty generally useful. That said, I hardly ever hear it above very small stakes, like $1-2. Or else if I do here it it'll be someone who consistently speaks like that, whether weak or strong.

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12-01-2016 , 12:46 AM

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Raistlyn M

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I'd assume the general meaning is nervousness. Confident people will talk more when they're relaxed and are often are silent/deflective when trying to hide something. I find people become more rigid and quiet when bluffing, but there are definitely people who talk more or feign confidence when bluffing. Also, when someone phrases something like a question, it tends to mean they aren't sure of the accuracy of their statement.

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01-18-2017 , 02:50 PM

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ARCANGEL0

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think is a mid-strength hand

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