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Old 12-03-2015, 03:09 AM   #1
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Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

How does his game change?
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Old 12-03-2015, 10:29 AM   #2
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

Probably not at all, since those players usually also smoke before going to play and are used to playing high.

Maybe a better question would be to ask how they play if they haven't smoked all day.
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Old 12-03-2015, 12:42 PM   #3
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True..............
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Old 12-03-2015, 03:03 PM   #4
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

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How does his game change?
They are more likely to 6 bet with air.
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Old 12-04-2015, 02:34 PM   #5
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

Getting High on what?

That's the determining factor.
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Old 12-04-2015, 05:37 PM   #6
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

Degens gonna degen bro lol if he's good at poker not much will change. If he's bad he's just gonna play even more braindead
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Old 12-10-2015, 02:06 AM   #7
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

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Getting High on what?

That's the determining factor.
Coke in the bathroom
Weed in the car
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Old 12-10-2015, 09:31 PM   #8
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

the more important question is why didn't you tag along
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Old 12-10-2015, 11:11 PM   #9
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

^lol.


It isn't going to change anything unless they overdo it.
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Old 12-11-2015, 09:41 AM   #10
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

In my experience with this it really depends on whether they are up or down as far as PF aggression. But once we get to the River I find that they are much more willing to fold out 'more' hands right after returning than before they left. After a few orbits you will get the '**** it' and call mentality so you need to pay attention.

Although this looks pretty specific it holds true for 3 or 4 of the regs I run across. GL
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Old 12-15-2015, 02:07 AM   #11
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

Sometimes they are paranoid that you might have the nuts and sometimes they are paranoid that you might be bluffing.
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Old 12-15-2015, 02:46 AM   #12
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Lol, honestly this was half a troll post. I do think people that are high play more aggressive and are more likely to call down. That is just my experience thouse
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Old 12-15-2015, 05:50 PM   #13
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

From the smell in poker rooms, and the snickers when someone mentions "The pot" I thought a lot of poker players were high all the time.

I put a player on tilt the other night, he came back from a break smelling of the wacky-tabacky, he was still screaming mad on tilt. Duuuuuuuude, needs to learn how to chiiiiilllll.
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Old 12-17-2015, 01:17 PM   #14
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Duuuuuuuude, needs to learn how to chiiiiilllll.
I thought that was why he took the break in the first place...
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:14 AM   #15
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How does his game change?
His game changes very little. Just as your game shouldn't change that much (assuming you smoked with him).
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:32 AM   #16
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

Villain dependent.

Joey Bagels (Knish from Rounders) was well known for smoking weed before and during the middle of every poker session he played. He was also known as a very tight player who regularly locked up medium sized wins and crushed fish but never played a very high variance style or seemed to tilt.

I've also known players who smoke ridiculous amounts of weed and genuinely play better stoned.

A good number of players will play worse after smoking though, I know I do. I used to smoke weed to make it through huge 15 hour+ cash game sessions without getting bored out of my mind during card dead stretches, but I realized it was affecting my play substantially, so I don't anymore.

The other day I was playing at Commerce and someone came to my table from a broken game with a big stack. They immediately left, and came back from the parking lot REEKING of weed. Good stuff too, no dirt.

I immediately targeted him as someone I thought had the potential to spew big. Four hands later he got it all in with the third nuts vs the nuts, lost half his stack, and then preceded to tilt off the rest + 6 more buy-ins, including going all-in every hand blind and out of position for two orbits.

So yeah, it's villain dependent.
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Old 12-18-2015, 05:29 PM   #17
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Villain dependent.

Joey Bagels (Knish from Rounders) was well known for smoking weed before and during the middle of every poker session he played. He was also known as a very tight player who regularly locked up medium sized wins and crushed fish but never played a very high variance style or seemed to tilt.

I've also known players who smoke ridiculous amounts of weed and genuinely play better stoned.

A good number of players will play worse after smoking though, I know I do. I used to smoke weed to make it through huge 15 hour+ cash game sessions without getting bored out of my mind during card dead stretches, but I realized it was affecting my play substantially, so I don't anymore.

The other day I was playing at Commerce and someone came to my table from a broken game with a big stack. They immediately left, and came back from the parking lot REEKING of weed. Good stuff too, no dirt.

I immediately targeted him as someone I thought had the potential to spew big. Four hands later he got it all in with the third nuts vs the nuts, lost half his stack, and then preceded to tilt off the rest + 6 more buy-ins, including going all-in every hand blind and out of position for two orbits.

So yeah, it's villain dependent.
So true. I've had very high THC doses before long sessions/tournaments mainly as a focusing agent. My ADD gets very bad when I'm sitting still. Sober my hand memory isn't nearly as long as it is under the effects of medical marijuana. The other room distractions (sound of chip shuffling, waitresses, TV's, random casino cheering/chatter) seems to turn off while I'm playing under the influence. It's not for everyone, but I notice I have much better results this way. I'm less spewey with the chips, less likely to call villains on the river with moderate hands, and I can focus more on betting pattern/chip handling tells at my table.
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Old 12-18-2015, 06:06 PM   #18
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

Depends, was it Cali weed?
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Old 12-22-2015, 05:54 PM   #19
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Indica is a no-no for my Poker routine. Not even a hybrid. Sativa for the session, Indica or Hybrid post-session
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Old 12-24-2015, 09:16 AM   #20
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

I soul read much better when on weed. It's like everything has been elucidated.

Some other people I know get really, really dumb at the game when they get high.

100% person dependent.
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Old 12-24-2015, 12:45 PM   #21
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

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I thought that was why he took the break in the first place...
That is what I thought, maybe he had that caffeinated pot.
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Old 12-25-2015, 01:21 AM   #22
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How does his game change?
a lot of outside factors play into this, it is going to differ depending on the person obviously. if your talking bud, i would say that the majority of people who would do something like this are probably high the majority of the time they play other times, so getting high would probably make them play better than when they are coming down or stone sober.
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Old 01-02-2016, 05:00 AM   #23
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

I've played live before while high and I can honestly say I play better and able to stay focused. You're able to take in more information and play more logically with little emotion. That's just me anyway.
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Old 01-03-2016, 07:17 AM   #24
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

funny i saw this topic after getting done with a car break.

omaha i play worse when 420 blazed.

I have never played hold em not under the influence. Game is so boring otherwise, so I would say weed does not effect my hold em game.

<note i am a high-intake toker>
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Old 01-19-2017, 04:01 PM   #25
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Re: Guy goes out and gets high in his car, comes back....

How does his game change?> it doesn't

i always blaze before my sessions
i like to reek like weed because some people tilt because of that.
for me live poker is like going to a movie.

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