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09-08-2016 , 08:26 PM
Gues he stopped mastubating to jamies vods. Stapler is nowhere near tonkas numbers. And cant understand how tonka is burning out? Just took couple weeks in barcelona binking. Carver is a clear number one and tonka / polk gets the 2nd place depending which one starts earlier, deep runs, hs games etc.
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09-08-2016 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by p0kercasual
The big four as it stands for today. I live, breath Twitch poker so I know all the real numbers. Nanonoko nor Elky are daily streamers and the only time they actively stream Poker for consecutive days is for WCOOP & SCOOP. Granted Nanonoko streams a bit more than Elky neither are regularly pushing 500+ viewers without help. They do stream other Twitch games like Hearthstone. You have to stream on a consistent basis to be considered a top Twitch poker streamer. Nanonoko's & Elky's viewership numbers are more of a result of hosts from JCarver or making a deep run in a high prize pool tourney. The fact is at best they average 200-400 viewers all things considered.

This is an accurate picture of the top 4 Twitch poker streamers:
1. JCarver (The head honcho 5k-15K average viewers everyday. Nobody short of Tom Dwan or Phil Ivey starting a Twitch channel is going to challenge him)
2. Jaime Staples (For whatever reason hasn't streamed as much)
3. Tonkaaaap (Started off red hot but see signs of burning out from streaming)
4. Doug Polk ( Don't like the guy but he does get viewers)

Then you've got streamers who are below the 1k average views Lex Veldhuis, B.Paris, JaimestaplePA, etc..
I think it's been established in another thread that p0kercasual is staplespa .... Btw lex will surpass Jamie in viewers when streaming at same time
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09-09-2016 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by p0kercasual
This is an accurate picture of the top 4 Twitch poker streamers:
1. JCarver (The head honcho 5k-15K average viewers everyday. Nobody short of Tom Dwan or Phil Ivey starting a Twitch channel is going to challenge him)
2. Jaime Staples (For whatever reason hasn't streamed as much)
3. Tonkaaaap (Started off red hot but see signs of burning out from streaming)
4. Doug Polk ( Don't like the guy but he does get viewers)

Then you've got streamers who are below the 1k average views Lex Veldhuis, B.Paris, JaimestaplePA, etc..
Tonkaaaa is clearly 2nd, he has surpassed Jaime in every sense over a consistent period of time. To say hes getting burnt out is crazy since he said recently that twitch poker sparked a new passion and that majority of his merch sold out within days of opening his website/store.

I have respect for Jaime and Carvs for establishing a twitch poker market but Jaime cannot reach the viewers (that he once achieved) that are drawn by high stakes and deep runs because he is not good enough of a player to achieve these as he's spending too much of his resources on other projects E.G Youtube, Golf etc.

It's clear their is a positive correlation between viewers/subs and deep runs/high stakes - When Jaime was second there was no Tonkaaaa, no Doug Polk, no bparis. Their is no competition for Jaime which allowed his personality and his small stakes crushing shine but as twitch poker has grown so has the competition forcing Jaime out of the lime light - I believe after WCOOP that Doug Polk is going to have consistently more viewers than Staples.

Staples needs to stop with the drama and stop talking about what he can monetize and work on his game.

More deep runs, more viewers and subs.
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09-09-2016 , 03:43 PM
JCarver currently 1/86 of the $1k Stud H/L Championship. Early days.
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09-10-2016 , 02:57 AM
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JCarver currently 1/86 of the $1k Stud H/L Championship. Early days.
10/21 overnight. Resumes in 10 hours; $35k up top.
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09-10-2016 , 03:26 PM
Carver on his way to b2b final tables in some bananagame.
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09-11-2016 , 12:54 PM
Doug starts streaming the $100k with 10k viewers.
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09-11-2016 , 12:59 PM
anyone wanting to sweat the 100k can just do so from the stars client instead of watching doug's stream

you'll actually see more cards as you can't even see doug's cards at showdown and you don't have to listen to that voice
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09-11-2016 , 01:07 PM
Thank you for that enlightening info.
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09-11-2016 , 01:59 PM


Guess people want to hear 'tahat voice'
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09-11-2016 , 02:49 PM
LOL, would watch polk if he showed hole cards and I didn't have to go to snapchat to see his hands, annoying, but nothing but respect for the guy and what he's doing.

Anyway I'm on pokerstars twitch now, channel is offline but a bunch of people are speculating in it.
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09-11-2016 , 03:17 PM
Christ, the Jason show is super awkward.

Pokerstars's channel has weighed in with 15k viewers; Doug sitting around 10k.
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09-11-2016 , 03:40 PM
Gotta give mercier respect rocking w/ that classic theme. Thats oldschool right there.
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09-11-2016 , 05:46 PM
RIP Doug in the $100k. Got it in on the turn with 70% versus Kanit; needless to say what happened next.

Mercier has rebought and is back streaming for nearly 30k viewers.
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09-12-2016 , 01:24 AM
What an amazing day for Twitch poker (although a rough one for Tonka). At times the poker category surpassed staples of the platform like Dota and Overwatch in viewership. I don't know what the record is for poker, or if anyone tracks it, but I imagine 46k has got to be up there.

Hat tip to PokerStars for playing a central role in that, but I found the mass censorship to be a curious choice.
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09-12-2016 , 03:41 AM
PokerStars also streamed Jason Mercier's run in RIU on their Youtube channel. It got a relatively good number of views compared to other Poker content.

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09-12-2016 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Hat tip to PokerStars for playing a central role in that, but I found the mass censorship to be a curious choice.
Mass censorship is pretty standard during large events hosted by Twitch. It can't be too bad...

How is it even possible to ban so quick? Does twitch have its own banning dream machine?
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09-12-2016 , 11:48 AM
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Mass censorship is pretty standard during large events hosted by Twitch. It can't be too bad...
What do you mean when you say hosted by Twitch? If you're referring to the front page feature, that doesn't mean that Twitch staff get involved with moderating. Doug Polk, Tonka, Nanonoko, etc. get featured on the front page fairly often and they moderate their own channels as they see fit.

Mass censorship is not standard from what I've seen, but maybe I haven't watched enough. I have tuned in for TI5, TI6, some Hearthstone and CS:GO majors, and never noticed any heavy-handed moderation. In fact, they were all pretty much free for alls. Sometimes this included jokes at the broadcaster's expense, but for the most part it's lighthearted fun.

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How is it even possible to ban so quick? Does twitch have its own banning dream machine?
You can configure bots like Nightbot to automatically ban people who say blacklisted words. The only times I've ever seen this used was Pokernight in America blacklisting variations of "motor boat" and Pokerstars banning the Bad Reg emote yesterday.

At one point Pokerstars prohibited the use of TEXT, so the chat became pure emote spam. I have never seen that before. Even then, they continued banning people for using emotes to mock Jason when he made questionable plays. Came off as very thin skinned and anti-fun in my opinion.
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09-12-2016 , 11:59 AM
Standard Pokerstars behavior at this point. Do they get like that during the EPT broadcasts too?

Kind of shows they don't really understand the platform.
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09-12-2016 , 12:27 PM
Yeah they do. Said about some stars pro 'wow hes bad' after some weird ass play and instaban.
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09-12-2016 , 12:31 PM
The EPT streams seem pretty layed back from what I recall of watching them. I get the sense that Amaya execs were monitoring yesterday's event, as they put a good deal of promotion behind it. Perhaps the chat was sterilized for their sake.
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09-13-2016 , 11:52 AM
Yeah, I got a snap perma-ban for making a joke about the SNE situation. Jason left after firing the first bullet and when he came back had his phone in his hand. I said "Jason just got off the phone with Lee Jones and Lee said there's plenty of SNE monies left over so they're going to back him again for the second bullet."

...and that was the end of jaywalking in the PS channel
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09-14-2016 , 03:57 AM
I got banned in the 102k stream with Felix just for saying Fedor flopped a straight, I spoiled it. It could not have possibly been spoiled it didn't even make it past turn. The ban was a ridiculous amount of seconds too, equaled about 6 hours. They need to get over themselves
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09-17-2016 , 08:27 PM
So tomorrow is the 10k and carver and tonka tweeted playing it and would think polk plays allso.
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09-17-2016 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
So tomorrow is the 10k and carver and tonka tweeted playing it and would think polk plays allso.
Could jimmy stapler raise the capital and blast off in tomorrow's 10k? Maybe have the viewbois buy pieces at a mark up obv .. Win win for both , the viewbois get a sweat and stapler gets the freeroll and mark up $$$$. The twitch investors are obviously not savvy investors so it may work..
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