Here's a guy I can watch. He's streaming 4 tables and using a HUD with 24 different stats at every seat. He obviously knows how to stream at a high resolution and I can see everything clearly.

http://www.twitch.tv/shuller_a1t

No idea what your problem is, maybe its your location. For me his stream quality was always ok, I mean its not great but enough to see everything important. I remember once I had it on while multitabling myself and as usual various other things open, also my desktop is 5 yrs old.

He told a funny story about when he was on the millionaire matchmaker. He said that after the date he went clubbing with the girl and they got back to his place at 3am, started making out and she passed out mid-kiss. LOL

Maybe she thought he was a bad kisser and that was her escape plan. lol!

I mean like don''t get me wrong. DN has done a lot for poker as an ambassador for the sport. And he's very likable and been a great ambassador. It's just that the old guard are nowhere near the top of the sport anymore.

lulz

It's a mind sport like chess. Some people even think chess is not a sport. Anyway this is debatable of course. To me it's a sport. To you it's probably something you engage in with your drunken buddies on a friday night.

Did he not get second in the Big One For One Drop against a field of top pros? Or was that just a dream I had?

Internet players who see DN's two decades of grinding and million plus win years as well as his level of celebrity in the game (and the money that such brings) have to rationalize their comparative lack of success by saying that he cannot compete with them online (and they would crush him live IF ONLY ...).

Sorry gents, but he can play at your levels and do very well. It is just that he does not have to drop to your levels because he is making so much more money doing what he is doing. If he is such an easy mark, pool your cash and chase him down when he is online or find him live and take him for everything he has. 1,2,3... print money.

How would their knowing Isaac Haxton is a better player make one bit of difference as to how much they enjoy watching Negreanu?

The **** are you talking about? What does it mean to carry the torch? What is Daniel doing that he shouldn't be doing?

I think he means that the young, hoodie wearing mutes should take over. If Daniel had a frontal labotomy he would fit right in with the newer generation.

Sadly, that is true. This year's WSOP Final Table was filled with great poker players demonstrating their superior skill -- it was also NOT very entertaining to any casual watching. To paraphrase Pulp Fiction and the talk about a pig, "... personality goes a long way."

You're clueless. He's tried to play online cash nosebleeds more than once and every time he got creamed and was seen running back to live donkaments with his tail between his legs. Public knowledge, really. And not something he denies anyway.

It wouldn't. If you think really really hard for like 3 mins maybe you'll realize you're not actually disagreeing with me. The average Poker Fan Joe Dip**** doesn't know/care who's actually at the top of the sport. He wants and enjoys that entertainment that Daniel/Helmuth and the rest of the old guard are so good at providing. That's why, like I said, DN is good for poker.

I agree the new guard is bad at entertaining. You know what they're good at?

POKER.

Poker as a sport is moving AWAY from entertainment. I foresee no more entertainment in it than during a TV broadcast of a chess tournament. Nerdy/geeky dudes who are probably the opposite of entertaining. I don't see any more reason for poker players to be entertaining than for chess players. I mean, of course I do - more entertainment - more fans - more $ in the sport (ads, sponsors, more fish at tables), I get it.

But the entertainment is not a natural part of this sport. It's a mind game like chess. The entertainment was originally there to entertain the fish so pros can take their money. But when you have a high-level match - entertainment is not just unnecessary - it's distracting.

Look at it this way - would you propose that chess grand masters be more entertaining during TV broadcasts? Good luck with that. Then why do you think suggesting same for poker players is appropriate? Why? Because there's an element of chance in poker? Because it's "gambling" and that makes it "entertainment"? Because "OMG WE NEED MORE FISH!" Meh.

Within probably 5-10 years poker will be as "entertaining" as chess. Only people who enjoy the intellectual aspect of the game will be into it - for the rest it will be like watching paint dry. Poker will probably lose a lot of it's coolness and will be seen as more of a geeky thing like chess. Which is 100% cool with me.

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The most famous Chess player of all time (one that was most none by people that do not play chess or follow it) was Bobby Fisher. Why? The dude had personality and a story about him. You can be an internet nerd all you want, but when you are on television try to act like a person having fun or showing passion and not a bot (because, you know, people watch TV to be entertained).

Jcarver is not the best player streaming, but he regularly cracks 10,000 viewers because he is entertaining, acts like he is having fun, and shows a genuine consideration for the viewing audience. Next time you make a TV table, take a note nerds.

If some guys make it to the top of poker also happen to be wildly entertaining - awesome. I'm just saying it's highly unlikely there will be a lot of them in the future. The top demographics of poker will resemble the top demographics of chess even more than it does now. Nerdy, introverted, quiet... in short, not very entertaining.

This 'debate' about who's better or worse or good or bad is silly.

Daniel is the reigning WSOP player of the year. He's clearly still got enough game to be a hugely successful tournament player.

Or is tournament poker not considered poker anymore?

"With Daniel in bed" twitch poker series is good for poker, I also think online poker is not so attractive for rec players because of antisocial nerds. It started when somebody applied game theory on poker, started using stats and math. Gap between good player and recreational gambler is too big, Daniel is from old good pros who weren't ruining their living environment with derogation.
But people will do what is short term favorable, there is no cure.

Ding ding ding. Of course no one in their right mind will claim tournament poker is not poker. But many like me consider it an inferior deviation from "pure poker". It's an artificial structure (increasing blinds) in which the luck factor is much higher than in cash. So there's more luck and less skill in tournaments compared to cash. Hence the term "donkaments" and why people like Jamie Gold are "world poker champions". Tournament poker is more like a lottery - cash poker is more like chess. I can't take tournament poker seriously. But that's where TV/advertising/sponsors are. I get that.

I really enjoy his stream. I am sure I have missed a few but on the last stream I caught, I think I recall his subscribe option wasn't set up.(?) Not certain though so don't quote me on that.

IF he's opting out as a way to give back to the community, maybe he should reconsider by doing a sub charity drive of sorts of his choice like Barry did back in the day. I bet even some of the hardcore gamer twitch geeks would cross over and contribute.

Good idea?

What?! He's basically giving money away for free by STREAMING 400/800 8-game online and entertain 15k viewers. And people still complain. LOL.

I was unaware that I was complaining. Ty for your insight.

I was unaware I wasn't replying to you.

400/800 8 Game alongside hilarious Rounder quotes goin down now!

Daniel just chopped biggest pot ever streamed on Twitch and it was $140k+ and he chopped with Trueteller.

Hand:

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...667_B5D9123348