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08-17-2017 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by capone0
Well the non DK class legendaries are absolute **** and many of the DK legendaries aren't good at all.

Hadronox is okay but seems slow.
Professor Putrid is ****.
Sindragosa is slow and inconsistent.
Bolvar is meh--I guess a 3-7 divine shield isn't bad but not good. Pally has too many good cards.
Archbishop-**** unless fatigue decks are real even then just a huge gimmick.
Voss-gimmick and inconsistent.
Moorabi-freeze shaman is ****.
Blood Queen-seems awful.
Rotface-stats are bad but have high upside.
i agree the non dk legendaries are ****ty, but what dk is not good? every single one of them wins games
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08-17-2017 , 03:01 PM
Yea the DKs overall are pretty good, basically the opposite of the quests where only 1 or 2 were competitive. Pretty sure the Warrior DK is bad though, especially at 8 mana.
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08-17-2017 , 03:12 PM
Have played Warrior DK a bit, confirmed not very good.
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08-17-2017 , 03:15 PM
I feel like Ysera has always been not quite good enough to craft... Safe bet these days?

Also what about lich king?
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08-17-2017 , 03:25 PM
Brag: Yet another legendary card. The 11th legendary I've opened since the 10th

Beat: It's Professor Putricide.
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08-17-2017 , 03:46 PM
Re: Ysera

1. Games are slower than they've been in a while.

2. There aren't many shamans/control warriors around, so you don't run into Hex/Execute/Brawl/Devolve that often.

3. There are a lot of priests, who can't handle a 4/12 dragon at all. She's great value vs. druids too, who don't have tons of hard removal.

4. If you're a priest with Barnes/Shadow Essence, you should definitely run Ysera.

Ysera has always been good enough that if she sticks to the board for 2+ turns, you almost always win. The problem was getting her to stick.

There are enough good dragons that a controlish dragon deck will probably work in multiple classes.
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08-17-2017 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
i agree the non dk legendaries are ****ty, but what dk is not good? every single one of them wins games
Are warrior, mage, rouge that good? I think hunter dk hero power is stupid--of course I just pulled it from a pack.

After a week,

Seems like malfurion is the best, anduin maybe second with uther. Thrall seems okay. Rexxar battlecry is good but hero power is the worst IMO. I think blood reaver is quite strong but not many good demons and it's the most expensive. Valeera seems ****ty but idk. All aren't bad just some are much better than others especially the hero power. Malfurion and anduin hero power seem op. Uther is worse than I thought but still good because of sick battle cry. Haven't tried or seen much valeera so no real comment there but the hero power is sick but the battle cry seems like it's ****. Thrall should be sick but not sure as well.
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08-17-2017 , 04:52 PM
The warlock hero power is objectively much better than Malfurion and the battle cry is probably usually better.

But it costs more mana and druid is a stronger class than warlock, which is exacerbated with druid ramp ability.
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08-17-2017 , 04:55 PM
Druid is just crushing due to UI? Does the 7 mana vs 10 mana cost make a huge difference? Also innervating malfurion is huge.
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08-17-2017 , 05:00 PM
Vicious Syndicate with a mini data reaper report:

https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/ear...frozen-throne/

Highest win rate deck is actually Murloc Paladin (57%), with Pirate Warrior (also 57%) close behind. Jade Druid still has a 54% win rate, though.
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08-17-2017 , 05:12 PM
Surprised Murloc is so high but I do love pally so I'll try the new deck. I guess tempo + equality + value + board (and the fact that druid can't clear big boards) + sunkeeper.

Sick that Pirate Warrior is still so high but probably b/c it's cheap, it's early in the meta and it's pretty refined.

Considering the % of Jade Druid players, that 54% rate is still pretty nuts.
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08-17-2017 , 05:22 PM
Yea i won 12 straight with murloc pally. Was 19-3 at one point. I evened out to like 29-14 or something. My version isn't even the best one, it runs skelemancers which I think are garbage vs the insane amount of aggro i'm facing at ranks 1 and 2.

I think I'll probably swap them out for corpsetakers or something.
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08-17-2017 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jmakin
Yea i won 12 straight with murloc pally. Was 19-3 at one point. I evened out to like 29-14 or something. My version isn't even the best one, it runs skelemancers which I think are garbage vs the insane amount of aggro i'm facing at ranks 1 and 2.

I think I'll probably swap them out for corpsetakers or something.
probably stonehills would be good in that deck.
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08-17-2017 , 05:53 PM
That's a good idea, i never play paladin so i just play it like an arena deck, seems to be working fine
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08-17-2017 , 07:18 PM
Guess it's time to play bull**** murloc pally. So sick of losing to druids. Way ahead on board.... guy ramps turn 3 t4 has 2nd Jade blossom + wrath and then t5 innervate + coin UI. SO FUN! It's just dumb that they can keep the entire Jade package with insane draw and armor and still tech in BGH and a silence.
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08-17-2017 , 07:24 PM
they need to make malfurion 8 mana and nuke innervate. **** innervate.
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08-17-2017 , 07:29 PM
Well dont get too excited, murloc pally loses if they have spreading plague in hand
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08-17-2017 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Searix
trying a new deck i just made it, it's a hybrid Miracle priest/Lyra priest, with only good Barnes targets

Mulligan hard for Barnes

Edit: http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/894987-kft-mercy-priest
Oh look, someone finally copied my deck and it's 'top 50 legend' and is at the top of hearthpwn. Sigh i knew this would happen:

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/89933...-big-ez-priest

Gets rid of 2x Deathwing for Lich King, but otherwise it's the exact same concept
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08-17-2017 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk
they need to make malfurion 8 mana and nuke innervate. **** innervate.
Can you imagine if rogue had innervate instead of counterfeit coin?

It's like they forgot the whole identity of druid was based around ramp, and that the class thrived even without super early game because of it. Then they decide to give the class all the best early game, and add on the best survival tools. Who woulda thunk it would become broken?
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08-17-2017 , 09:23 PM
rogue has a more busted innervate, prep.
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08-17-2017 , 09:39 PM
there is no way that prep is more busted than innovate. Innovate has been the most busted card in hearthstone for all of it's existence.

I mean yeah prep is pretty busted but it only works on spells, innervate works with anything at any stage of the game (before turn 10). Like prep is good with auctioneer and edwin, but how many games are won with just innovate fledgeling on turn 1 or just innovate malfurion, innovate spreading plague against a strong opening. Innovate just wins games almost whenever it's played.

It's just like for 0 mana do **** that you shouldn't ever be able to do at that point in the game and it works so much more when the druid has already ramped with wild growth or jade blossom.
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08-17-2017 , 09:43 PM
Anyway I'm 13-4 with the deck you were playing on stream jmakin, though i did replace skelemancer with stonehills. Too much silence out there to be running skelemancer imo
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08-17-2017 , 09:57 PM
It makes me feel warm in my loins that when you hit face with UI for lethal, your hapless opponent has to watch you draw 5 cards before he dies.
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08-17-2017 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk
they need to make malfurion 8 mana and nuke innervate. **** innervate.
Heh I just got done facing a Hunter who had almost a full board of 2/2s from one Highmane dying + he activated deathrattle on one before it died. I'm at 4 mana. An innervate-Innervate-Prime Drake later, he conceded and I got a friend request.
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08-17-2017 , 10:03 PM
I hope he made you feel bad, dirty Jade.
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