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Old Yesterday, 03:46 PM   #40476
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From the stats, the only things that stop PW are the two big token decks--Aggro Druid/Token Shaman, and Control Pally.

PW is even with everything else basically which is nuts. What's the proper nerf for PW? Weapons can't go FACE seems like overkill.
I agree. I've thought about this a bit but haven't come up with anymore more creative than increasing the costs of a few key pirates.
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Old Yesterday, 03:48 PM   #40477
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According to that PC Gamer article, Brode is doing a Q&A on Twitch this Friday. Maybe we should ask him!

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Old Yesterday, 04:06 PM   #40478
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It's probably one of Blizzard's "feelsbadman" nerfs. If you just take a look at the statistical winrate, it's not OP, but it feels bad to lose to and creates a negative impression with players. It's one of the reasons why I quit the game, soon after Ungoro game out. After losing to pirate warrior for the last 4 months of Gadgetzan, I didn't feel like losing to quest rogue for the next 4 months of Ungoro. It's also the same reason they said they nerfed Mind Control to 10 back in the beta, not because of the stats, but because it felt bad to get your dude stolen.

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Old Yesterday, 05:22 PM   #40479
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If you couldn't get 5/5 chargers it wouldn't feel so bad. It's still a great deck when the right person used it and it's one of the few decks where if you're skilled you're win rate is going to be significantly better than the same deck piloted by a novice. Anyone can pilot pw and the win percentages differences between average and good are relatively small. Winning against pw, aggro Druid and a few other decks with quest rogue actually took skill and other matchups were almost unloseable in the right hands.
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Old Yesterday, 05:59 PM   #40480
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I think the nerf is fair. I don't think it will become unplayable.
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Old Yesterday, 07:46 PM   #40481
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5 is a death knell for the deck, which is a shame because it was easily the most challenging and interesting archetype to come around in a while.

Yay more Cthun warrior I guess.
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Old Yesterday, 08:00 PM   #40482
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Interesting that they nerfed Quest Rogue. I wouldn't mind it so much if they made all the monsters a 4/4 instead of a 5/5, or that all monsters have a random value between 1-6 for both health and attack, something like that, so that even if they do complete the quest, it isn't what is essentially an auto-win for them.
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Old Yesterday, 08:00 PM   #40483
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I think the nerf is fair. I don't think it will become unplayable.
Unplayable on ladder but could be a niche tourny deck?

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Old Yesterday, 08:59 PM   #40484
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The fact that someone took exodia mage to #2 legend absolutely blows my mind. I suppose there's a lot of jade druids and quest rogues at high legend but holy **** you get so many bad draws with it. Every game feels like feast or famine where you draw your whole deck and can't even use tomes or you have no draw or you get 3 random pyros/flamestrike and can't complete the quest etc etc. It was ridiculous watching Rage pilot his version in top 100 which is a super weird version at first glance but he makes it work well.
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Old Today, 02:53 AM   #40485
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They've mentioned this on the VS report, but high legend really isn't a true competitive meta because the incentives for people are more varied. Some want #1 at all costs, some want to reach high while meme-ing, and some just want to have fun after the boring 5-1 grind with the latest meta deck.

Looking at the 5-1 meta is much more representative of a decks average power.
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