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Old 03-20-2017, 01:33 PM   #38301
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Warlock guy looks busted as hell. Looks like that archetype will be successfully forcefed to players.

Stone Sentinel doesn't look good to me

4/4 is worth 3 mana and a card. 2/3 taunt worth like 1.75 mana and and a card.

When you proc it's worth like 8.5 mana and and a card. Add in some penalty for being bad vs AOE. Then, 7 drops need to be worth more than 7 mana and a card to be playable because they're dead cards for most of the game. I dunno, looks like it's only a little above curve when he procs. And then when he doesn't proc he's insanely bad.

edit: I guess "Playing an elemental" has value for procing other stuff, so maybe that would be worth enough to make him good

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Old 03-20-2017, 01:34 PM   #38302
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Elemental legendary guy looks terrible, wtf.
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Old 03-20-2017, 01:42 PM   #38303
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I think the 9 mana taunt legendary is legit worse than Soggoth. But then again, lol 9 mana minions
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Old 03-20-2017, 01:58 PM   #38304
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doesnt need to be a synergystic reason for the warlock card to be a beast

if it's a beast, it's a beast, and it will benefit from random cards you can get in a deck, also arena
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:32 PM   #38305
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I mean, you wouldn't play it without the elemental tag. It's pretty close to that 1/2 Ooze guy that nobody ever played without Hobgoblin or some other goofy trick.
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:59 PM   #38306
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A 30 health Ozruk is gonna awesome when it gets turned into a frog or a sheep right away.
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Old 03-20-2017, 03:09 PM   #38307
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Its similar to soggoth against face decks but even more extreme.

Imagine pirate warrior having to deal with a 5/15 taunt...
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Old 03-20-2017, 03:11 PM   #38308
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Its similar to soggoth against face decks but even more extreme.

Imagine pirate warrior having to deal with a 5/19 taunt...
You'll have already died 3 turns ago.
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Old 03-20-2017, 03:11 PM   #38309
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Well sure but warlock needs a lot of help.

Part of the reason Gadgetzan has been so Jade Druid+Shaman heavy is that Zoo has been **** on for the past several expac/adventures (really, spirit claws + maelstrom while cutting the warlock portal?)

They've been trying to make these new archetypes for warlock but it'd help if just make some of these minions demons. trafficker could be a demon, crystal weaver could be a demon, shadowbeast could be a demon.
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Old 03-20-2017, 03:11 PM   #38310
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no cause youre a shaman
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Old 03-20-2017, 03:45 PM   #38311
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how dare you
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:16 PM   #38312
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:35 PM   #38313
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i dont think the warlock legendary is good
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:00 PM   #38314
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It's not as good as Sherazin which is infinite value and you need to go full disco to do it but it could be interesting. They looooove the discard mechanic.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:40 PM   #38315
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I think Bobbo is right.

You end up playing it as a vanilla 2/2 for tempo, or it sits in your hand while you play superior 2 drops. The most likely scenario in which it gets discarded is when you've reduced your hand to Doomguard and 2 other cards, and getting a 2 mana 4/4 on Turn 6 isn't that earth shattering when Finja is giving you a 3/3 war leader and 4/2 or 6/3 charging Bluegill.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:50 PM   #38316
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Zoo is not a fun or interesting archetype, adding goofy discard **** isnt going to help things

I'd still take zoo over having to play against one more god damn PW or jade shaman though
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:16 PM   #38317
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If Eadric the Pure saw virtually no play, why is the new Paladin legendary going to see play? The numbers are slightly different (3/3 instead of 1/x) and this one has taunt but it's the same concept.

Also, it seems like Quest/N'zoth priest is going to be the featured deck archetype for this set.
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Old 03-21-2017, 12:35 AM   #38318
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it's not going to see play because, discounting the fact that paladin is hot garbage, it's a control card and control is basically not an archetype in this rotation. they've made extra sure of that, and i'm certain it's deliberate, so I am confused why they're even bothering printing these control cards.
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Old 03-21-2017, 12:41 AM   #38319
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i mean maybe there's some weird MR paladin use where you get a bunch of tokens and turn them all into 3/3's and trade into your opponents board and gain an advantage but imo that's a control card and not even a good one
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Old 03-21-2017, 01:56 AM   #38320
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Zoo is fun and interactive.
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Old 03-21-2017, 10:16 AM   #38321
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elemental shaman will hopefully replace jade shaman for a change of scenery if nothing else
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Old 03-21-2017, 12:23 PM   #38322
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Kripp just leaked a few cards.

Welcome to Shamurlocstone, boys
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Old 03-21-2017, 12:27 PM   #38323
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Granted that's a pretty meh quest but one of my first goals will be to build the best wild Murloc elemental deck the world has ever seen.
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Old 03-21-2017, 12:28 PM   #38324
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Megafin does serve as the ultimate reload though. Dump hand, dump megafin, dump hand, ???, Smorc.
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Old 03-21-2017, 12:33 PM   #38325
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aww man those are Shaman cards? thought they were neutral
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