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1) On an average night of dealing what is usually your take in tips?
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This is a delicate subject. I'm not comfortable discussing exact numbers. People generally fail to consider that for the vast majority of dealers there are no health benefits, no retirement packages, no paid time off, and no room for advancement. An 8-hour shift is lucky to see 5 or 6 hours of working. There is zero job security; people get fired all the time for little reason. There's not even much security for income. After working at a steady part-time clip all year, my hours were reduced to zero for a few weeks this month, simply due to lack of players. Also, many places have some kind of tipping out system, which can be as much as 30% of your toke drop.
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Does it depend on the stakes the players are playing or does that not matter at all? Just thinking that dealing for the guys in that million dollar game might pay better, but I wasn't sure.
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Generally speaking, low stakes tip the best, middle stakes NL tip the worst, and high stakes are typically very bad, because the players (rightfully) have higher standards. I'm not your typical dealer. I do very well in high stakes games, so I bite my tongue when I hear everybody else whining about it.
Low Stakes NLHE: These are kitchen table players. They lose their minds over an $800 pot, and will usually tip very well, because it's still far less than the 10-20% they're accustomed to tipping for service. But they're also a LOT of work, because nobody knows how to follow the action or handle the playing pieces. They go rather slowly.
Low Stakes FL: These were my bread and butter in California. The games move quickly, and the pots have more physical chips in them than NL. Very consistent.
Low Stakes PLO: I usually do okay at these, but they can be rough. The players don't understand traditional PLO conventions, but they don't want to look stupid, so they can be stubborn. For example, it was a chore for me to explain to a 1/2 PLO table that typically postflop bets are in increments of 5, and that the loose change is rounded up. They insisted I do "true pot," not even rounding the SB. Hey, it's their game.
Mid/High Stakes NLHE: These games are the worst. They're filled with young dudes who think they're hot stuff. They don't understand the tipping culture, nor do they understand what I'm doing for the game. I once had players criticize me for asking them to follow very basic rules, until an older player sat down, watched me for a few hands, and then said, "Wow, you're an incredibly efficient dealer."
They're also usually dead silent, with very little soft money. These are players who are out to prove how awesome they are, and they don't understand that this isn't how poker works. NLHE is a dead end once you're beyond the low stakes.
Mid/High Stakes FL: These are my favorite games. Very fast, and the players understand what I'm doing, so they appreciate it. I make bank at these, simply through volume and good will. The players are usually joking and laughing.
Mid/High Stakes PLO: These are my second favorite games. First off, because they're interesting, and the stacks can get huuuuuge. It's an exciting game, and the players also usually appreciate what I'm doing. Secondly, because most dealers are terrible at it, so I really stand out. I understand the language of the game, so I can adapt to whatever conventions they're following at the time. They'll test me, but I usually pass. I accept criticism well at these tables. I'm there to serve them, not the other way around.
The tips vary, typically less than low stakes NL or mid stakes FL, but that one giant pot with that one substantial tip makes up for all of it. Dealing nosebleed PLO is some of the most fun I've ever had at poker. It's a front row seat to the biggest game in the world.
Most dealers bitch and moan about high stakes, because they don't understand how it works. "I pushed an $80k pot, and he only gave me $1!" The players pick up on this attitude, so it only makes it worse for them. People don't get rich from being loose with money. A 75/150 O/E player might only be up half a bet after an hour, because that's how that game works. A buck is a compliment, two bucks is high praise, and getting tokes from both players on a split pot is a letter of recommendation. The players pick up on my genuine appreciation, which helps everything.
Every tip is a gift. The players don't owe me anything. I operate in service of the game.
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2) What's the biggest pot you as a player have ever raked in?
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I played low stakes. 25/50¢ NLHE, 3/6 FLHE, 4/8 FLO8. So only a few hundred. Not very exciting.
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3) Biggest tourney you've ever won? Payout and field.
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I mostly ground out the $8.80/180s, so nothing really big. My biggest online bink was $2k, and in person it was just under $3k. Small stakes stuff. The year I played a lot online, I had a 58% ROI, 19% ITM rate.
My biggest poker tournament profit was from taking a piece of KurtSF the year he finished 7th in a WSOP bracelet event.
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4) Favorite casino on the strip as a player, dealer, and just a normal person living in vegas.
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I don't have a favorite giant corporation.
There are no normal people living in Vegas.
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5) Favorite place to eat?
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Whatever sushi place near me has a balance of value and quality. When I lived near Lake Merritt in Oakland, I frequented Mijori, and Drunken Fish near Piedmont Ave. On the expensive side of things, Tokyo Go Go in SF's Mission had fish that melted in my mouth. In Vancouver I've been very pleased with Kadoya downtown.
My other favorite cuisine is Ethiopian. When I lived in Tucson, it was Zemam's. In SF and Oakland there are countless choices, all of it delicious. I fear I won't find it in Vancouver.
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6) Favorite poster/s on 2+2?
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Everybody in Home Poker!
RR, psandman, and bav are consistently solid posters, with quality information regarding how a game should run. For sheer entertainment value, I quite enjoy limon, frommagio, and 27offsuit. Many of the regulars in the Casino Employees thread are also good story-tellers, with youtalkfunny and Quadstriker jumping to mind.
But seriously, HP is my favorite corner. Almost every thread is enjoyable. We get along pretty well here.
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7) How old are you?
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38.
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That's it for now....
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Thanks for participating!