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Old 06-13-2012, 03:33 PM   #1
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Talking at table

game is at a underground card room. What happens if there are only 2 players in a hand, player A and B. During the hand Player A speaks to the player next to them in a low voice which Player B can not hear. Player A spoke very low, almost in a wisper.

What rights would Player B have? It doesn t matter whether its cash or tourney. Just assume there is more action possible in the hand.
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Old 06-13-2012, 04:43 PM   #2
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Re: Talking at table

Player B can ask Player A what he said.

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Player B can ask the dealer what Player A said.
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Old 06-13-2012, 05:39 PM   #3
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game is at a underground card room. What happens if there are only 2 players in a hand, player A and B. During the hand Player A speaks to the player next to them in a low voice which Player B can not hear. Player A spoke very low, almost in a wisper.

What rights would Player B have?
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Old 06-13-2012, 05:52 PM   #4
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Player B can ask Player A what he said.

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Player B can ask the dealer what Player A said.
You can ask, but I don't think Player A or the dealer is under any obligation to answer.

I don't worry much about this type of talk as long as both players are not involved in the hand.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:42 PM   #5
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Guess my concern was player A could be asking advice and/or discussing other issues with another player. Since player A was still in the hand I didn t think they would have a right to talk in a wisper with another player.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:57 PM   #6
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Guess my concern was player A could be asking advice and/or discussing other issues with another player. Since player A was still in the hand I didn t think they would have a right to talk in a wisper with another player.
He can talk all he wants. If the other player starts whispering back, then I would start worrying. Usually a friendly reminder about collusion will stop the whispering.
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He can talk all he wants. If the other player starts whispering back, then I would start worrying. Usually a friendly reminder about collusion will stop the whispering.
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:58 PM   #8
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they both whisper.
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Should've noted that in the OP as that is an important detail. Then it can be more cause for concern since this could violate the OPTAH rule. I would just mention it to them that it gives off the appearance of collusion and leave it at that for now.
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+1. It's not like he can magically force management to kill Player A's hand. Best he can do is to ask the dealer politely whether Player A may converse secretly with his friends.
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No whispering during a hand. This is a standard casino rule.

It's an extension of "English only," which is a shorthand for saying, "Either share with the entire class, or not at all." No sign language, either.
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No whispering during a hand. This is a standard casino rule.

It's an extension of "English only," which is a shorthand for saying, "Either share with the entire class, or not at all." No sign language, either.
While it has never been an issue in my games, I probably wouldn't worry much about it if A was whispering to B. But if B is whispering back or it's happening often, I'm going to enforce the above.
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Can't unring a bell. You have no idea if the other player will whisper back, or give some kind of non-verbal response. After all, it's rude to ignore someone. Social nicety can easily trump poker etiquette before the brain has time to process it.

No whispering during a hand. Period.
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Old 07-28-2012, 01:02 AM   #13
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No whispering during a hand. This is a standard casino rule.

It's an extension of "English only," which is a shorthand for saying, "Either share with the entire class, or not at all." No sign language, either.
Nailed it. If it was my game, I'd give one warning and kill their hand each subsequent time. No room in ANY poker game for this type of behavior...can cause SERIOUS arguments.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:39 PM   #14
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Nailed it. If it was my game, I'd give one warning and kill their hand each subsequent time. No room in ANY poker game for this type of behavior...can cause SERIOUS arguments.
Do you run your own home game? Just curious.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:41 PM   #15
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Depending on the game, I'd shut this behavior down. I'm assuming that villain was whispering to a friend, not currently active in the hand? I assume it wasn't some random....

The whispering back is probably worse than the initial comment, but both need to be cut off, imo.
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