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07-04-2014 , 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilverine
I have one tip:
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ban OP
Sounds like you may have a dog in this fight. I for one would like to hear your point of view with a bit more detail. "Ban OP", without any follow up , sounds like trolling even if you don't mean it that way.
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07-04-2014 , 01:06 PM
the obvious solution is add another table ... I assume they can't fit another one.

When a home game is a for-profit "casino", it becomes less fun. A dealer complaining about tips is rude. Having a cheap pizza buy is annoying.

Letting players keep their seat ( the house could require a $60 min re-buy to keep out a nickel and dimer doing a bunch of $20 rebuys) would result in a fun game with bigger pots, bigger rake, bigger tips. It would seem to me to be a win-win.

Maybe the host made that rule up on the spot so one of his friends could come in. Now he has to stick with that rule.

I played in a home game tournament with a $20 fee for food and drink and it was huge. Cigars wine cheese crackers beer water a bunch of pizzas. BUT the difference is, he wasnt doing it for profit; he was doing it to build an email list of potential clients for his stock broker job. He was a really nice guy with a cute nice wife. So many cars parked on his street the local cops politely told him to shut it down.
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07-04-2014 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimulacrum
Ell-oh-ell at 2,000 BB in the purse being "really deep." I play in a game where there are multiple stacks that deep by mid-evening.
was thinking this as well.
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07-04-2014 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bene Gesserit
Sounds like you may have a dog in this fight. I for one would like to hear your point of view with a bit more detail. "Ban OP", without any follow up , sounds like trolling even if you don't mean it that way.
Yes, I would like to hear it as well. Sounds like he is one of the ones running the game.
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07-04-2014 , 05:27 PM
Ditto . . . Personally, after busting, and finding out about this rule, I would simply leave, and never go back. This rule, as stated by others, is TERRIBLE for the long-term health of their game. but, if they want to cut their own throats, that's their problem.
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07-04-2014 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bene Gesserit
Sounds like you may have a dog in this fight. I for one would like to hear your point of view with a bit more detail. "Ban OP", without any follow up , sounds like trolling even if you don't mean it that way.
Or it could be trolling. This sort of pseudo-witty bottom-posting is too common in other forums.
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07-04-2014 , 06:35 PM
hah, i was just messing with him, op is a friend of mine. imo those games are crap and i wouldnt expect any better from a game like that. i, much like your friend, probably wont be going back
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07-04-2014 , 08:37 PM
Oh, if you're his friend, then well done.
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07-05-2014 , 10:15 AM
So it seems that you have 3 for a new game...

I've played a few different places, never heard of the bust and go to the back of the line rule. With add-on ability, it seems almost easy enough to circumvent, but in any case, you get a guy who just busted out and wants to rebuy and get his money back (or try) unable to play.

What was with the other people hanging around but not there to play? Can you see the 'list' of do the host's keep it private?

Nope, I wouldn't be returning. Yup, I'd be checking with the other disinterested guys about starting a game.
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07-05-2014 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue56
So it seems that you have 3 for a new game...

I've played a few different places, never heard of the bust and go to the back of the line rule. With add-on ability, it seems almost easy enough to circumvent, but in any case, you get a guy who just busted out and wants to rebuy and get his money back (or try) unable to play.

What was with the other people hanging around but not there to play? Can you see the 'list' of do the host's keep it private?

Nope, I wouldn't be returning. Yup, I'd be checking with the other disinterested guys about starting a game.
Yeah, you could start a home game with no rake, no snide comments from drunk host about tipping the dealer, and no dominoes pizza ( the box tastes better ). There are a group of Omaha Hi Low players from my local card room who have a Friday Night home game only because they eliminate the rake.
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07-05-2014 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by eneely
Oh, if you're his friend, then well done.
Wilverine confirmed friend and idiot lol
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07-05-2014 , 01:26 PM


would go to your game fwiw. also got invited to a game that moves around our area that sounds promising, ill keep you posted
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09-18-2014 , 05:47 AM
An update:

The rule discussed in OP still exists. The hosts still don't get it. They have also increased the rake to max $3 and added a $1 jackpot. They are STILL complaining about not getting tipped enough, even though I see people tipping of upwards to $5-$6 at a time which is INSANE. I hardly tip, and if I do, it's no larger than fifty cents. When there's an all in or a call, the dealer will say "I'm gonna help out the hand that will tip me the most when it's over." Lastly, we started at 8pm this past Tuesday. Food, which was pizza again, didn't get there until 12 ****ing 30. The game then busted...

One of the hosts did upgrade his game conditions, getting a really good table for a good price, and also found 10 leather office chairs being thrown out due to a building being closed. Got em for free though. I'll give a little credit and say he has at least made some sort of stride to improve his game conditions. The other guy, not so much.

They are about to raise the blinds to $.50/$1 so hopefully the rake stays the same! However, going on previous history, I obviously doubt it.

It sucks because a lot of the players are good friends, but I may have to start looking elsewhere for games. Just the way it is.

Last edited by strongrad50; 09-18-2014 at 05:57 AM. Reason: left out details
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09-18-2014 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimulacrum
From the look of things, your friends are trying to squeeze a full-time living out of a quarter-blind home game, and they're not even committed to it enough to expand the game as their player base—customer base, more appropriately—demands it.

Pulling down $150–200 in rake a night, these guys should have enough money to put some back into the game. It costs nowhere near that much to run a small game, per night, plus $20 or $30 worth of pizza. They owe it to their paying customers to not have stupid policies like this waiting-list nonsense. Worse yet, they're punishing their on-time players, the people who get their game going every night.

The reason they're doing it is pretty clear: it keeps a larger player base active, where people might otherwise leave because they can't get a seat. It makes the hosts more money by keeping the game going longer. (So they figure, anyway, but who knows how many people refuse to play there because of the rule? I know I wouldn't.) But it's an insult to all of you, that they would make some of you who showed up on time sit around and wait to get back in, all so they can squeeze more quarters out of the game each night.

And the host also complained that people weren't tipping him, or tipping him enough? How greedy. He's the house! He's pulling money from the game at a rate proportional to casino rake, with nowhere near the expenses to cover. Dealers get tips because they're underpaid service employees. This guy is not an underpaid employee; he's a co-owner of the business. Players shouldn't feel obliged to tip him at all. They are already paying him quite a bit for his lackluster services.
Don't know how I never responded to this. I 100% agree with everything you said.
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09-18-2014 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by strongrad50
I may have to start looking elsewhere for games. Just the way it is.
I'd have done this a while ago. Or you could invest a few hundred bucks in a table and some decent chips, then host an unraked game yourself. Then you won't have to pay rake and you won't have to deal with these a-holes. Win win.
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09-18-2014 , 08:53 AM
Are decently run , no or low rake homegames that hard to find in a big place like Atlanta? Maybe so , IDK, but I would have seriously moved on already. Good luck finding a good crew OP!
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09-18-2014 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Schmendr1ck
I'd have done this a while ago. Or you could invest a few hundred bucks in a table and some decent chips, then host an unraked game yourself. Then you won't have to pay rake and you won't have to deal with these a-holes. Win win.
They can be, as Atlanta is full of underground games. I only know of three true home games, mine, amicusnole's, and another up in Cumming (mine is .25/.50 NLHE/PLO every other Tuesday, Amicusnole's game is usually .5/1 NLHE on Fridays, and the other is in Cumming on Fridays).

Anything bigger than .5/1, though, and you're generally looking at raked underground games (I play in one occasionally on Sunday nights in Acworth, and I know of a number of others).
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09-18-2014 , 03:21 PM
Yeah OP, drop $300 and get a nice set of chips. Check out thechiproom.com for some decent china clays/discontinued casino chips. Build and/or buy yourself a table for another $300 and run your own game. Or, better yet, buy a poker hoodie for a kitchen table and bam, instant poker table.
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09-18-2014 , 03:27 PM
There are generally about 100 times more poker games in a town as the ones you know about.
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09-18-2014 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Breich
Yeah OP, drop $300 and get a nice set of chips. Check out thechiproom.com for some decent china clays/discontinued casino chips. Build and/or buy yourself a table for another $300 and run your own game. Or, better yet, buy a poker hoodie for a kitchen table and bam, instant poker table.
Yep, if the budget is tight, don't skimp on the chips. A topper of some sort will work until you get a real table, them throw it in the closet for those times when you need a second table or something portable.
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09-19-2014 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by strongrad50
An update:

The rule discussed in OP still exists. The hosts still don't get it. They have also increased the rake to max $3 and added a $1 jackpot. They are STILL complaining about not getting tipped enough, even though I see people tipping of upwards to $5-$6 at a time which is INSANE. I hardly tip, and if I do, it's no larger than fifty cents. When there's an all in or a call, the dealer will say "I'm gonna help out the hand that will tip me the most when it's over." Lastly, we started at 8pm this past Tuesday. Food, which was pizza again, didn't get there until 12 ****ing 30. The game then busted...
Of course they increased the rake.

People tip $5 or $6 at a time in a $0.25/$0.50 game, and these guys are still kvetching about it? I figured people must've only been throwing them spare quarters or whatever, and they felt shorted, which is still crazy in a home game. Unbelievable that they'd have the gall to complain about massive tips like this.

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Originally Posted by strongrad50
One of the hosts did upgrade his game conditions, getting a really good table for a good price, and also found 10 leather office chairs being thrown out due to a building being closed. Got em for free though. I'll give a little credit and say he has at least made some sort of stride to improve his game conditions. The other guy, not so much.

They are about to raise the blinds to $.50/$1 so hopefully the rake stays the same! However, going on previous history, I obviously doubt it.

It sucks because a lot of the players are good friends, but I may have to start looking elsewhere for games. Just the way it is.
And of course they're raising the blinds. I'd be willing to bet there's no real demand for a $0.50/$1 game from among the players, especially based on your estimate of there being $1K total on the table on a big night. The hosts just decided they want to do it because they think it'll make them more money.

When this game breaks up because they skinned all the sheep, buy up their equipment at fire-sale prices (they'll probably desperately need the money for bills at that point), and start up your own game.
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09-20-2014 , 06:05 AM
Jeez, I must've missed that there was only $1k in the room. This game is insane. Don't play it. Yowza. I'm amazed the table can last more than two hours with what you've described. There's no way anybody can be a winner here.

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Originally Posted by Jimulacrum
When this game breaks up because they skinned all the sheep, buy up their equipment at fire-sale prices (they'll probably desperately need the money for bills at that point), and start up your own game.
Hah!
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09-20-2014 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimulacrum
When this game breaks up because they skinned all the sheep, buy up their equipment at fire-sale prices (they'll probably desperately need the money for bills at that point), and start up your own game.
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09-20-2014 , 05:27 PM
The rule about busting out and having to go on the waiting list actually encourages players to buy in big. You don't want to take the chance of busting out and having to wait. It is a strange rule but most underground games tend to have them. I wouldn't go back
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09-20-2014 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Schmendr1ck
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I always smile when you post this.






(Doesn't he know?)
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