(Raked) Club Game Containment Thread

[coldsilence89]

Originally Posted by slidey1

That has got to be an incorrect figure for a 1/2 game I would think. Unless they are running several tables at once with looong sessions I'm inclined to say that is a tad high. .02

there is a few people who $10 straddle. Normal button raise is $10+ so you can imagine how huge the pots get on the flop/turn. I've seen 1k pots at this game and ive only been going for 3 weeks.

I would host some 2/5 maybe once a week also, and then 1/2 maybe twice a week.

[Lionhat]

How much does a casino make off a 1/2 NL rake per hour? Full ring.

[awmllc2000]

Originally Posted by Lionhat

How much does a casino make off a 1/2 NL rake per hour? Full ring.

Based off of my dealers....130-150 an hour. That figure might be slightly off as our game runs extremely big. The majority of hands are max raked.

[Lionhat]

Originally Posted by awmllc2000

Based off of my dealers....130-150 an hour. That figure might be slightly off as our game runs extremely big. The majority of hands are max raked.

Just one table!!??

[awmllc2000]

Originally Posted by Lionhat

Just one table!!??

That's per table. We have 1-2 per night, 2 nights a week. That's a 5.00 max rake. 4 (house) +1 high hand

[Rundeep]

Originally Posted by sejny

Can someone give me a standard range for what I could expect to see being charged for rake at a 1/2 home game? I know they serve some food, and it's not just buddies. Thanks a lot.

Some of the games here in Atlanta rake 10% up to $15, and that's at a 1/2 game! Here I was btchn' bout the $9 rake you usually see. If it weren't for PLO and PLO8 I just don't think there is any way that you could profit play NLHE with rake $9+.

That being said- I am enjoying playing some of these underground games way more than I ever was at Palomar in San Diego. There is a lot more game selection out there, generally a better class of people, and playing poker is actually fun for a change.

[cdog]

Originally Posted by gamble

In New York City, most if not all 1/2 games are 10% capped at $15. It's just insane. I prefer to drive 1 hour and 20 minutes to Parx or 2 hours to Borgata for cash.

Well, many $1-2/$1-3 NYC games are raked too much, but at one place they only rake 10% to $6 and the game plays deep after the first hour or two. When you factor in the travel time (1.5-2 hours each way) and expense ($30 or more in gas/tolls or bus fare) of going to Parx/AC, where the rake is $5, and they dont provide any free snacks and not all of the tables play deep, I think players really get a better deal playing there.

You would never go to AC to just play for 3-4 hours after work, but some of these guys do just that, sometimes staying a lot longer - trying to get unstuck, obviously. The game last night (Saturday) went until 8am.

Plus they have Netflix for after the second loop of sportscenter is done.

[Rundeep]

On that note- why the hell does sports programming always have to feature so prominently at the poker room? Listening to a bunch of grown men fawn over star athletes with page after page of memorized statistic about a game I don't care about always tilts me to no end.

[eneely]

Originally Posted by Rundeep

On that note- why the hell does sports programming always have to feature so prominently at the poker room? Listening to a bunch of grown men fawn over star athletes with page after page of memorized statistic about a game I don't care about always tilts me to no end.

I totally agree. The on and on about what a coach should do the next game, what a player needs to do the next game, the endless analysis...it gets very old. I know some people lap this stuff up, but for me, just give me the important sports news, then shut up and show the game.

[DrStrangePork]

Originally Posted by awmllc2000

That's per table. We have 1-2 per night, 2 nights a week. That's a 5.00 max rake. 4 (house) +1 high hand

Wow. Of all the dealers I use, two of whom are professional dealers, I don't think I've ever had an hour raking $5 max that exceeded $130. I'd say $5 max should get you $110-$130. An absolute base is $100: if you can't rake that average hourly for your turn in the box, you won't be coming back to deal. I'm an average dealer at best, and I always rake $110+.

[loodachris99]

Originally Posted by Rundeep

On that note- why the hell does sports programming always have to feature so prominently at the poker room? Listening to a bunch of grown men fawn over star athletes with page after page of memorized statistic about a game I don't care about always tilts me to no end.

Originally Posted by eneely

I totally agree. The on and on about what a coach should do the next game, what a player needs to do the next game, the endless analysis...it gets very old. I know some people lap this stuff up, but for me, just give me the important sports news, then shut up and show the game.

this may come off as me being a wise guy but this is a genuine answer...you guys (us, 2p2ers) are going there to play poker and take money from the other players while most ppl you find in a casual 1/2 game on a saturday (or generally any time) are there having "man time" , gettin away from the wife and kids and having some free time to act like a man, and whats more manly to most guys than drinking a beer while indulging in a game of poker while bull****ting about sports....its what men do, and when push comes to shove the majority of players in any given 1/2 game are there more of a source of entertainment than for making money

[eneely]

I hear you, but I wasn't speaking in the context of a casino. I just mean in general. These all day sports talk shows are as bad as watching CNN.

[awmllc2000]

Originally Posted by DrStrangePork

Wow. Of all the dealers I use, two of whom are professional dealers, I don't think I've ever had an hour raking $5 max that exceeded $130. I'd say $5 max should get you $110-$130. An absolute base is $100: if you can't rake that average hourly for your turn in the box, you won't be coming back to deal. I'm an average dealer at best, and I always rake $110+.

I've got a girl who is a absolute beast. She avarages in the 135.00 range. I've seen as high as 152.00 out of her. We have been through quite a few dealers other than her, she has been here since day 1. The others avarage in the 110.00 range, but hit 130.00 occasionally.

[Schmendr1ck]

Just a reminder...

The purpose of this thread is for players to discuss issues specific to playing in raked games. The discussion of hourly rake is okay, mainly because it reveals to players just how much money comes off the table even with a modest 10% $5 max rake. I also don't mind game operators stepping in to answer questions that players ask.

However, I don't want to see this thread overrun by game operators talking shop. Please keep that in mind when posting.

[DrStrangePork]

Originally Posted by loodachris99

most ppl you find in a casual 1/2 game on a saturday (or generally any time) are there having "man time" . . .
and whats more manly to most guys than drinking a beer while indulging in a game of poker while bull****ting about sports....its what men do . . .

And know what else is men being men, using a casino as "man time"? Thinking their AT is golden on a flop of A86 when you have AQ, AJ, 8's. Thinking that their penis... I mean, their hand... of 96s on a K97 board is bigger than yours. Thinking that they can push you off your hand when their A2 hits an A on the flop.

Men having "man time" at a casino are EXACTLY the opponents you want on the table. IMO, testosterone is one of the biggest weaknesses in many players' games, and I do everything I can to identify cockiness and individuals who get annoyed by me doing something "a-masculine" like bopping to my tunes, making slightly off-color/homoerotic comments, etc. Sounds a little gay, but I have found it is the most effective non-poker strategy I employ at the table. I've seen so many guys tilt off their chips to me trying to "show me who's a man" just because I'm a 1st tenor and can sing the high notes. Sure, there are those times when I stack 15K+ off a guy in the second level of a 10K starting stack tournament who then wants to pull me out of my chair and beat my face, but like I always say, profit is profit, and I'll take it any way I can get it, within the rules. Luring a guy into a pissing contest is one of the widest traps you can lay down.

I can handle all the NFL talk you can throw at me, but just about any other sport bores me at best and annoys me at worst. And I think watching cars, horses or dogs run around in circles is about the dumbest thing on television (Jersey Shore notwithstanding). But fish swim to where the fish food is, and if you want to reel in the fish, you must learn to tolerate the fish food. Even better, use it to your advantage.