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DavidNB · 08-04-2012, 10:38 AM

Just a quick question regarding raises in for a cash game. blinds are 1 and 1
player 1 bets $50
player 2 goes all in for $65
player 3 I know player 3 can call for $65
But, can they make it a even $100, or would they be required to go 115 total?

psandman · 08-04-2012, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidNB

Just a quick question regarding raises in for a cash game. blinds are 1 and 1
player 1 bets $50
player 2 goes all in for $65
player 3 I know player 3 can call for $65
But, can they make it a even $100, or would they be required to go 115 total?

The standard rule would be $115.

From RROP

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2. The minimum bet size is the amount of the minimum bring-in, unless the player is going all-in. The minimum bring-in is the size of the big blind unless the structure of the game is preset by the house to some other amount (such as double the big blind). The minimum bet remains the same amount on all betting rounds. If the big blind does not have sufficient chips to post the required amount, a player who enters the pot on the initial betting round is still required to enter for at least the minimum bet (unless going all-in for a lesser sum) and a preflop raiser must at least double the size of the big blind. At all other times, when someone goes all-in for less than the minimum bet, a player has the option of just calling the all-in amount. If a player goes all-in for an amount that is less than the minimum bet, a player who wishes to raise must raise at least the amount of the minimum bet. For example, if the minimum bet is $100, and a player goes all-in on the flop for $20, a player may fold, call $20, or raise to at least a total of $120

If you think about it the other way would lead to silly results such as...... Player 1 bets $100. Player 2 goes All-IN for $199. Player 3 announces raise and raises to $200.............

This would be equivalent to "completeing" the bet .... but RROp tells us that

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5. “Completing the bet” is a limit poker wager type only, not allowed at big-bet poker.

The Big K · 08-06-2012, 09:58 AM

Minimum raise is to $114 pre-flop. $115 if post-flop.

**The Palimax** · 08-06-2012, 02:13 PM

The thing to keep in mind with these sort of "guy goes all in, what does that do to me" questions is simply that you've pretty much always got the opportunity to fold, call or raise as long as you're not raising yourself.

Add that to the fact that additional raises must be at least as large as the previous raise, and you've got your answer.

Because the action went Blind, Raise, All-in for less than a raise, and you're next, you've still got all of your options. You can make a legal raise (the current bet, plus at least as much as the last valid raise -- $114 [65+49]), you can call ($65) or you can fold ($0).

What's important to note is that if you just call the $65 and nobody else raises -- when the action gets back to the $50, he's only got two options: Call or fold. He's already the last raiser.