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Old 05-20-2012, 07:35 PM   #1
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Queens and Low Hold

Need help. If you're playing queens and low hold wild, and queens are you low hold, is you King in the hole then "wild"?
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Old 05-20-2012, 09:20 PM   #2
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Re: Queens and Low Hold

Is this stud? Are you saying that the hole cards are KQQ?
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:57 PM   #3
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Need help. If you're playing queens and low hold wild, and queens are you low hold, is you King in the hole then "wild"?
If you are playing any game with Queens and 'low hole card' wild, the king would definitely be wild.
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:43 PM   #4
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Re: Queens and Low Hold

But you would have to think that something lower than a K is coming so the wild would change. Correct me if Im wrong. We play something like this sometimes and thats how we play.
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Old 05-21-2012, 07:55 AM   #5
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Need help. If you're playing queens and low hold wild, and queens are you low hold, is you King in the hole then "wild"?
No. Queens are still Queens, even though they are wild..... unless the house rules on this game are specific about this game.

I'm guessing not, thus the question.

As I understand it, that's why this game is never "deuces plus low hole wild" because only 2s would be wild.

(btw, unless you have a special game here, it's "low hold" meaning "low cards in the hole".... not "hold")
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Old 05-21-2012, 08:25 AM   #6
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Re: Queens and Low Hold

Sorry. It was stud and the player Was holding QQK and had a K on his board, in essence to make 4 wild cards. I was trying to explain that I would play it as "Queens are his low hold" so he would have 4 Kings. But majority ruled against me and said he held K's as his wild (to make virtually 5 of any kind)!
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Old 05-21-2012, 07:24 PM   #7
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I read the question and the answers and still have no clue what is going on!
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Old 05-21-2012, 07:26 PM   #8
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Re: Queens and Low Hold

Yup, low in the hole is low in the hole. If your low happens to be wild anyway... you got counterfeited. We play Kings and little men, KA in your hole means only the K is wild. We don't allow the A to play low for wild, but do allow it to play low for a wheel.
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Old 05-21-2012, 07:37 PM   #9
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I haven't played this type of game in a long time, but as I recall, the Kings would be wild in our game. Queens are not queens in this game. They are wild.
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Old 05-21-2012, 11:16 PM   #10
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Re: Queens and Low Hold

And this is one of the many reasons I dislike wild card games. There are so many special cases that don't have a standard way of being handled. I've lost quite a few pots in these situations, by putting lots of money in the pot with what I thought was a nut hand, then finding out that the house rule was different (e.g. five of a kind beats a royal flush).

I'd say that low card is low card, so the queens are wild.
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I read the question and the answers and still have no clue what is going on!
Well, with answers like this...

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(btw, unless you have a special game here, it's "low hold" meaning "low cards in the hole".... not "hold")
...I'm not surprised. ZING!
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then finding out that the house rule was different (e.g. five of a kind beats a royal flush).
ummmmm.... five of a kind DOES beat a Royal flush. 5k is less likely to occur- check your Hoyle for stats.

I'm not sure for the threshold on # of wild cards, before it flips the other way... it's more than 2.

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...I'm not surprised. ZING!
Ouch!
figures I did that to myself.
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Old 05-22-2012, 12:38 PM   #13
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ummmmm.... five of a kind DOES beat a Royal flush. 5k is less likely to occur- check your Hoyle for stats.

I'm not sure for the threshold on # of wild cards, before it flips the other way... it's more than 2.
I can't recall the last time I played a wild card game that had only two wilds.

But for context, I occasionally play in a monthly tourney that is followed by an almost-anything-goes dealer's choice cash game. This host's rule for wild card games is that five of a kind and straight flushes chop. And this was the rule I had in my head when playing with a different group - who decided that my royal flush lost to the quints.

The obvious problem is that during the hand, I couldn't ask the rule without effectively telling everyone what I had.

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Ouch!
figures I did that to myself.
2p2 is like life - our worst problems are usually the ones we create for ourselves.
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Old 05-22-2012, 06:18 PM   #14
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House rules can be a b!tch for sure.

Back in the day, we had such goodies like...
"No 5 of a kind, but 6 of a kind beat a straight flush"

"Wild cards needed to play with natural cards" - ie 5 wild cards plus JT = 5 Jacks, not 5 Aces.
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ummmmm.... five of a kind DOES beat a Royal flush. 5k is less likely to occur- check your Hoyle for stats.
Oh, so No Pair beats Two Pair in 7-card stud now, since it happens only 17% of the time compared to Two Pair's 23%?

There's also the added bonus of 5-of-a-kind not being a poker hand any more than three pair is (or isn't).
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