If it was my home game I'd rule it $40 and kill player A's hand for interfering with another player's stack. Extreme I know, but maybe this douche needs to learn some etiquette the hard way.

I would let player B go $40. If I was in one of my better moods, then I might point out some of players b chips landed in players A stack.

Haha.

Mods; Sorry if I misplaced this. I know it was at a home game (though not a legal one), but most of the games I play at "try" to run it similar to a casino (hire dealers, have BBJ or high hand promos, etc.) just thought B&M would be better.

If this were my home game, player A is getting a friendly don't do that again talk from me and then uninvited if it happened again. (There might be an alternative explanation though, see below. I'd be very attentive to what player A has to say about why he was doing this.)

Since it appears to be a 'for profit' home game, perhaps the operator has more tolerence for foolishness than I might have in my house. However, I think the potential for conflict is significant, this could get out of hand.

As for the amount of the bet - player B says he wants to raise $40 and that is fine by me. I can't imagine player B plotted to angle the table to string bet +$10 knowing that player A was going to intercept his bet. Things are already not going well this hand, let's not get into a pointless discussion of bet sizing +/- $10.

I am bothered by player B also. The idea of someone 'tossing in a raise' sounds a lot like someone splashing the pot. I could imagine player A might decide to block a $40 raise with $30 in chips about to fly into the pot. Players shouldn't be tossing bets, though 'blocking' the toss is not the way to solve the problem.

Shorting the pot is a common and effective way to cheat. Splashing the pot is potentially a big deal and deserves attention. OP might be exactly right about $30 in hand vs a stated intention to bet $40 - but the problem to worry about isn't a string bet.

DrStrange

if its a undeground card room then you really need to straigthen this guy out. Otherwise your clients are going to find another place to play. Whats this guy going to do next? Muck his hand into someones live hand?

telling corny and repetitive jokes: meh, a matter of taste, hard to rule out of existence, and low damage.

interfering with the action: gotta stop.

Um, no. I just meant he tossed them in as opposed to stacking the chips. In no way was it going to resemble the splashing the pot. It's pretty hard to splash the pot pre-flop anyway.


They are not my clients, and it would appear that I'm the only one who sees how big of a problem this guy is. If I did run my own game, I'd have no problem telling this guy to knock his antics off or don't come.

Talk to the guy outside game. It sounds like he doesn t understand expected conduct at the game. Its just a matter of time before he does something else. Best outside the game for these talks.

I m assuming he is like this in other games aswell. I am also assuming he has no idea that his conduct is unacceptable. Just have a good talk with him, explain what is acceptable and what isn t.

I wouldn't kill his hand because that could be costing player B money.

There is no way those chips went in the pot, so $40 stands. It doesn't really matter that much why the chips didn't go in the pot (I'm sure someone might be able to come up with a scenario where the reason matters.)

If a guy picks up a $25 chip and makes a motion to put it in (over the betting line let's say) but it falls out of his hand before it crosses the betting line, then he can go back and bet whatever he wants.

Beyond that, it depends on how the house counts a bet. Over the line, over some virtual line, not until it hits felt, OK to count chips from a stack in your hand onto the felt, etc.

$40 plus A gets a "you are getting what you deserve since we have no way of knowing what the original bet was due to your immature and disruptive action" speech.

Short, sweet, and to the point. +1 to both.

FYP

.. and again.

.. along with the delaying fake-raise (possible an angle, OP?) and other crap.

Hell, forget the host- I would have said something to this fool about some of this crap.