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Originally Posted by lehee
Greetings,
I play poker weekly with some friends, and I love this game.
But this week we had an issue, and I hope to find the answer on why here.
Cool. Me too. I've requested that this thread be move to Home Poker.
We've played a long time, and issues do come up. Lots of good suggestions already about how to avoid repeating this one.
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Originally Posted by lehee
Ok, so this week I was the bank, as we call it, I was giving out the chips and collecting the money during our cash game. But at the end of the game my bank was short, so I could not take all my winnings, because everybody else was already paid. It's not the end of the world amount I just want to find answer to why and explain it to my friends.
Yes, we call it the same thing. Exactly how short was it?
When I bank, we self count at the end, and if it's not 100%, then I take a closer look until it is accurate. In the event that it's not, I take the loss (or overage).
Sometimes the amount off and the chip denoms help determine if it was a dirty stack.
Off by a bill amount, maybe forgot to collect the correct amount?
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Originally Posted by lehee
So here is what I think caused the shortage, but I don't know why.
So we were 10 at the table, and at one point, player A, who had lost and already made a few re-buys, told me to give him chips for $100 and he will give me the money later, as his money is in the other room. It's not an issue we trust each other, so he got the chips. Up until this point every chip was covered in the box where we keep the money. But player A has lost this $100 to.
Not a good idea, to keep a great bank, have him go get the money in the other room. Might help cool him off (most players aren't playing there best if they've made a few rebuys, in excess of what they brought to the table.
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Originally Posted by lehee
So player B proposed to player player A, that he will give him $150 worth of chips, so he can continue playing.
B should lend cash to player A, not chips. Not many players allow this to happen. Also known as ratholing or going south.
But doesn't impact the bank.
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I want to mention here, that player B previously borrowed $100 in cash from player A, and this amount was in the box.
Still not OK to pay it back in chips during the game. After the game, before cashing out, sure.
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Originally Posted by lehee
This way they resolved the borrowed money between them.
After player A got the chips from player B, he gave me $100 worth of chips, telling me to but them back in the box, so this way he does not to give me the money for the chips he got at the beginning of my story, and so I did.
OK. You got $100 in chips back, and put them into the box. Strange way to handle it, but I suppose it works out the same.
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Originally Posted by lehee
He played with the remaining $50 and he lost that also. Soon the game ended, and I was not able to take all my winnings, because it was shortage in the box.
No matter how things went with his $50, there is no effect on the bank.
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Originally Posted by lehee
Now my friends are saying that this should not have caused a shortage because it's not important that someone is borrowing chips to another player, because those chips are covered in the box.
Please help
Your friends are correct. Shortages come for many reasons. Selling/lending/transferring chips in play isn't one of them.
Think about it, does each player winning a hand impact the bank? Of course not, so consider the chips moving from player to player the same way.