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07-18-2016 , 01:47 AM
Short version: Can a player who called an incomplete raise all-in re-raise if a player behind him makes a complete raise?

Long version:
Home game rake-free
Blinds are $1/$2. Playing NL cash game. All action is pre-Flop
Jason UTG calls $2
Roy calls $2
Tom calls $2
The dealer, Doug raises $11 to $13 total
SB folds
BB, Danny re-raises to $25 which is a complete raise
Jason then pushes all-in for $36 (incomplete raise)
Roy calls
Tom goes all-in for $59 which everyone agrees is a complete raise
The dealer Doug then asks to clarify that Roy will not have the option to re-raise because Doug says Roy lost that option since he only called the incomplete raise previously.
Everyone else at the table said Roy would have the option to re-raise since a player behind him made a complete raise. That's what we went with.

Did we rule correctly?
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07-18-2016 , 05:31 AM
Yes.

To simplify these cases, just 'mentally' replace Jason's $36 action with a $25 call;
Danny raises to 25
Jason calls 25 and is all-in
Roy calls 25
Tom raises to 59 all-in
...what can Roy do? Of course he can raise.
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07-18-2016 , 10:22 AM
Yes. Roy is facing a legal raise. He will have all options open to him when it is his turn again.
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07-18-2016 , 11:00 AM
Yes, whatever he called in the past, is not limiting to what his future options are.
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07-18-2016 , 03:25 PM
The mistake people make with these issues is they think in terms of whether the all-in closes a players action ..... but that is never the issue. The issue is whether an all-in bet REOPENS betting which was already closed.

In this case you don't have to ask that question because another player has made a bet which reopens the betting anyway.
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07-19-2016 , 07:29 PM
Thank you for the responses. I can always count on the twoplustwo community.
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