One Two Home Cash Game
Eleven players
One round of 1/2 NL Hold Em
One round of 1/2 Pot Limit Omaha High

PLO was wacky and crazy with lots of suckouts, etc.
Until, late in the game, around 11:30pm, during a Hold Em round . . .

Raise to $15
Call
Call
Call
Raise to $200 from the end of table, with two black chips tossed towards the center, but not into the pot.

Fold fold fold back around to the player on the raiser's right, who calls, without moving any chips forward. Players agree to run out the board and see who wins. Raiser has AA, Caller has AKoff. Pocket Aces hold up. Raiser says "your $200 is not in yet." Caller agrees and puts in his $200.

Raiser stacks out his chips. Announces $797. It's a lot of chips, mostly red and white, a few green, no black. I counted it (visually) from the other end of the table and $797 appeared to be correct. Caller counts out his $797, puts it into two stacks, mostly green, and slides it slightly to his left, to the player who won the pot.

Winner/raiser sweeps his own $797, the caller's $797, and the rest of the main pot all together in a heap/pile, knocking over whatever stacks that were there before.

All the chips are in a pile in front of him now.
Next hand begins.
AA guy begins to stack his chips by color. Soon realizes he has approx $1840ish. Knows that he should have $997x2 plus $40-50 from main pot. Announces, "Hey, y'all, I'm short here."

Obviously somebody miscounted. Either the raiser didn't really have $797 behind, or the caller called with less than $797. Impossible to determine now who miscounted. One or two people "think" they saw the raiser's $797 as accurate. One or two people "think" they saw the caller's $797 as accurate. Obviously one of them was not accurate.

AA guy really mad now.
AK guy offers to give him $250 more to make it square.
AA declines.
Entire table offers to give him $25 each to make it square.
AA declines.

AA gets mad, decides to cash out and leave.

Anybody have any thoughts, insight, suggestions on how this was handled? Or suggestions for the future?

I'll save my thoughts until after a few people have chimed in.

AA guy messes up by not making sure things are square. AA guy gets his panties in a bunch, won't accept any reasonable action by others (though not needed). AA guy is a douche and not a loss to any game, so who cares.

When did the all-in fiasco happen. That's not part of your story - though I really don't care.

Its kind of late to make any changes once the winner hauls all the chips in and the next hand starts. The bets should of been counted but they were not, Its tought luck for the raiser, but there is not any real option. It was nice of the AK guy to offer to make it up. The raiser is upset and doesn t accept any options suggested, let him go home to burn off the steam. Hopefully he understands how poorly he acted

I don t understand where the $797 came from? Last action in your post was raise to $200 and the other guy calls. I don t see an allin?

AK guy's offer seems more than generous, not really sure what AA guy's problem is.

Did you miss out a part in the story where it goes from 200 to all in btw?

My mistake.

15-15-15 . . .
AA raise to $200
AK raise all in
AA call
AK has AA covered

Whew...OK, thanks. I can stop scratching my head.

So, is this a self-dealt game? Sounds like it. I think AA is responsible for verifying what he should get. If he is going to take the table's word for it, then he forfeits his right to complain after he demolished the stacks.

Correct. Game is "self-dealt" and "demolished the stacks" is an accurate description.

I'll just second the labeling of the guy with AA as a brat. Both the other player in the hand and the entire table offered to make the perceived mistake right, and he still wanted to sit there and bitch?

Good-bye, so long, and hopefully the door smacks you on the ass on the way out as it's obviously your parents didn't do it enough when you were a kid.

He opted not to completely verify the stacks and then sweep everything together so that there was no longer any way to be certain. It's his own fault and he owes the entire an apology for his actions.

Assuming no real action after the hand, there are 3 things that could have happened:

• AK miscounted his call and shorted AA. (AA should have made sure that he received the right amount)
• AA miscounted his own stack and got too much. (AK should have made sure that he paid the right amount)
• Both can't count. (Back to kindergarten!)

Now AK is generously offering to accept the worst scenario for him and ship another $250 to AA. And AA still is not happy.

Suggestion for the future:
Spend a little more time on counting down bets and calls (especially when the pot gets big). A night of poker without that AA guy sounds like fun. You should try that.

EDIT: I just reread your OP and realized that you are aware that AA might have had a smaller stack to start the hand. So the essence of my post is +1 to everybody else ITT.

Yes, I agree with the three possibilities. For the rest of that night and the other games since then, everyone has been extra careful (almost comically so) to count and verify the big bets whenever they occur.

And yes, AA was smaller, AK had him covered.

Yes, AA is SOL. Should have verified count before sweeping. Yes, AA is a douche for his post mistake actions.

WOW.. 1/2 with 800 and another covering?

PFR to 15, then to 200, then to 800 and called? No shortage of action here...

AA wanted to hit-n-run and found an excuse IMO

Lol, exactly what I was thinking. Why would the guy get mad and cashout if the whole table offered to even up the mistake? It sounds like he was shooting an angle and just wanted to cash out before the inevitable loss.

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I would call it more then a angle shoot if he set it up like this. I mean of course when he caled the allin, he shorts the pot by $250 on purpose knowing if he wins he will count up the pot to show he's short so he can walk out.

One other possiblity. Is there a chance when the guy with AA called the allin, that he didn t push his $200 into the pot rather he counted it as part of the $797 total?